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    Quote Originally Posted by Reginleif View Post
    I always felt that Athena was just a later addition to the story, since it never matched her character in my opinion
    Was it a later addition? Has this story been told in several versions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reginleif View Post
    I always felt that Athena was just a later addition to the story, since it never matched her character in my opinion
    Athena was as vain as all the other gods, like when Poseidon jumped Medusa, Medusa got turned into a monster by Athena because she had a crush on her uncle...

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    Good point, one that I made a long time ago; all of them represent a trait which Christians associate with the flesh.
    Are you going to go all John Milton on us now?

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    By mythology Hyppolita is daughter of Ares so, that would make Diana both daughter and greatgranddaughter of Zeus. Anyway, Greek deities aren't people, they are concepts given physical form. The incest is a byproduct of the metaphorical connections between these personified concepts, just like their behaviour. You see ''vengeful Hera'' in relation to Zeus cheating because she's marriage incarnate. Zeus is inconstant and womanizing because he's the weather personified. They can't not be like this anymore then Ion(GL), the entity of will can be compliant.
    Ex: Hephestus lust over Athena. Athena is not interested in sex. She's war. But she never decisively puts him off. Because war is interested in the creation of technology. So she strings him along, while he gives her gifts to seduce her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliseu Gouveia View Post
    Seriously, is there any greek deity that wasn´t a total prick at one time or another?
    Any "good" Greek deities probably would have been boring and uninteresting.

    Flaws make them interesting! (And relatable!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MajorHoy View Post
    Any "good" Greek deities probably would have been boring and uninteresting.

    Flaws make them interesting! (And relatable!)
    Exactly. That's why no one gives a flying toss about Hestia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandomFalls View Post
    Exactly. That's why no one gives a flying toss about Hestia.
    Maybe if they did the world, such as it is right now, would not be in such a hopeless, miserable and deplorable state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MajorHoy View Post
    Any "good" Greek deities probably would have been boring and uninteresting.

    Flaws make them interesting! (And relatable!)

    A character doesn´t need to be a total prick to be interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliseu Gouveia View Post
    A character doesn´t need to be a total prick to be interesting.
    By the way, my response was partly (but only partly) tongue-in-cheek.

    Unfortunately for us, many readers / customers / writers / editors tend to equate "wholesome and good" with "old fashioned and boring". (Just look at what Geoff Johns has done so far with Billy Batson.)

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    Batson is just a kid with issues and so he acts like a douche because that's his defense mechanism. His new family will obviously break his shield and allow for the true Billy to appear. Johns has stated that family is the most important theme of Captain Marvel and he started with Billy's journey into finding one, getting accepted in one, and learning to be part of it. To me that makes it that much more interesting and worthy as opposed to having him in the family from the start all happy. BOOM a thunder transforms him into CM and he beats the bad guy.

    Sorry for going off topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by americanwonder View Post
    Maybe that's why she was kicked out of the Pantheon? ;)
    The Olympians needed wine more than they needed a hearth.

    Personally, I would love for someone to use Hestia as a serious power in a story. "Hestia comes first!"

    edit: Yeah, what coveredinbees said!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FIFTY-TWO (52) View Post
    Aphrodite had an affair on one brother/husband (Hephaestus) with another brother (Ares).
    Yes, but another famous origin is that she rose from the froth of Uranus' severed genitalia, making her more a monster like the giants and the furies, although a beautiful one. She would not be sister to Hephaestus and Ares In WW Eros called Hermes "uncle," so Heph or Ares can be his father.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FIFTY-TWO (52) View Post
    That's because Aphrodite promised him the vagina of the world's most beautiful woman; a demigoddess named Helen.
    Yeah, the problem was Helen was already married and had a kid. That would be another reason why Hera would hate Aphrodite, even though Helen was one of Zeus' bastards.
    I'm looking forward to seeing Aphrodite in WW. Zeus and Hyppolyta's union seems like Aphrodite is up to the same mischief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliseu Gouveia View Post
    A character doesn´t need to be a total prick to be interesting.
    But when have you seen a greek deity being a prick?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Hurt View Post
    Batson is just a kid with issues and so he acts like a douche because that's his defense mechanism. His new family will obviously break his shield and allow for the true Billy to appear. Johns has stated that family is the most important theme of Captain Marvel and he started with Billy's journey into finding one, getting accepted in one, and learning to be part of it. To me that makes it that much more interesting and worthy as opposed to having him in the family from the start all happy. BOOM a thunder transforms him into CM and he beats the bad guy.

    Sorry for going off topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imraith Nimphais View Post
    Maybe if they did the world, such as it is right now, would not be in such a hopeless, miserable and deplorable state.
    Yeah, that's what sickens me when I watch the news: "Have people no respect for Hestia?!?". They don't even put her statue by courthouses and such any more.
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