Themes of Incest in WW!?

[Reginleif]

So...Hades wants to marry Diana who is his niece, since Hades is Zeus' brother and WW's father. Not sure if anyone pointed this out, but it does seem odd.

[MajorHoy]

So...Hades wants to marry Diana who is his niece, since Hades is Zeus' brother and WW's father. Not sure if anyone pointed this out, but it does seem odd.

Nah, not for mythological beings. In the begining, all the Titans had to mate with their own siblings because there wasn't anyone else around.

[dreyga2000]

Hera, Zeus's wife, is also is his sister.... So....

[Reginleif]

Hera, Zeus's wife, is also is his sister.... So....

yeah, but my point is that it is getting applied to WW herself

[Javier Velasco]

Hello everyone.

Just a warning.

This thread has the possibility of going quickly into an area that can be off topic and/or unacceptable. But I am not deleting it... yet.

As has been stated, many mythologies have "incestuous" relationships that occur between divine beings. And as Azzarello is going into an extremely mythological realm, this is bound to come up.

But please remember, this is an ALL AGES board. And the reality of incest as opposed to the allegorical use of it in mythology are two different things.

As such please refrain from making light of the subject, discussing real world cases, etc. Take an extra look at what you are saying and make sure it is appropriate for the board. If not, your post and possibly this thread will go the way of the Dodo. And by that I mean extinction.

Thank you and enjoy the boards,
Javier Velasco

[Reginleif]

In Vedic mythology, the god of the underworld, Yumi is married to his sister Yami, but Yumi refuses to consummate their marriage because they are related.

[Amazon Fan]

yeah, but my point is that it is getting applied to WW herself

Well, this is the first time Wonder Woman's ever been in a situation where it could be applied to her. Before now, although she had attention from the male gods (Eros, Hermes), the circumstances were different. She was just another mortal to them.

Besides, Hades' current(?) wife, Persephone (anyone remember her?), is also the daughter of Zeus (by Demeter), so there is a precedent for Hades' actions.

[Eliseu Gouveia]

Hera, Zeus's wife, is also is his sister

And people wonder why he seems less than 100% invested on his marraige. ^_^

[Reginleif]

And people wonder why he seems less than 100% invested on his marraige. ^_^

from what I understand about that relationship, its because shes ugly.

[Javier Velasco]

Try to bring it back to what is being portrayed in the book, as opposed to a general discussion of mythology.
Thank you
Javier

[dshipp17]

from what I understand about that relationship, its because shes ugly.

Actually, Hera is considered very beautiful in Greek mythology; she is so beautiful that she was judge to be second in beauty only to Aphrodite, but went into an envious fit with being judge in second place.

Or, are you talking about her personality? As a general matter, in my eyes, personality will usually trump beauty after a certain point; lots of women are beautiful, but it's a little more difficult to find beautiful women with a matching personality (e.g. not becoming holier than thy like, creating a shallowness about herself); although Hera does have a problem with being envious, I wonder what she'd be like if a male bathe her with compliments and attention concerning her looks and possible other positive attributes as a woman, despite his looks, if she wouldn't be persuaded as a friend with benefits? A lot of Hera's issues is the root of her being with the wrong type of man in Zeus; although discarding Hephaestus is certainly a strike against her in my eyes (Athena, as well) (but there's also an alternative version of the story), she may have a personality that matches her beauty if she had the benefit of someone who appreciated her beauty and other possible positive attributes.

[hunter_peterson]

And people wonder why he seems less than 100% invested on his marraige. ^_^

HA! Awesome call.

But on topic... of course it's incest. I'm just waiting for Diana to call Ares "brother-cousin". The gods aren't human and don't seem grossed out by the mixing. I guess it's like two ideas mixing together to make a new idea, so from that perspective it's less creepy, but they ARE a literal family also, with physical bodies (though vastly different from ours structurally). I agree that if there wasn't a relative trying to get in the spangled-panties now that she's a demigod, it wouldn't feel as mythological.

Maybe the gods like people in their gene pool because they're "higher" than ordinary humans? Even the mortal conquests of the gods usually are related to them in some way. They also seem to like to piss each other off by banging each others offspring, actually...

[Mr. Holmes]

HA! Awesome call.

I kind of want to buy the idea that because they're siblings, they're marriage is just symbolic. But that doesn't explain why Hera always gets jealous.

[FIFTY-TWO (52)]

Hera, Zeus's wife, is also is his sister.... So....

Aphrodite had an affair on one brother/husband (Hephaestus) with another brother (Ares).

[pad]

Aphrodite had an affair on one brother/husband (Hephaestus) with another brother (Ares).

Yes, but another famous origin is that she rose from the froth of Uranus' severed genitalia, making her more a monster like the giants and the furies, although a beautiful one. She would not be sister to Hephaestus and Ares In WW Eros called Hermes "uncle," so Heph or Ares can be his father.