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    Default Saijin Komamura vs Yammi Llargo

    The captain of the 7th Division vs the Diez/Cero Espada.

    Both are heavy hitters with kaiju modes, and both have sort of a bad rep. Who wins?
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    Say what you will about Komamura but at least he's never bragged about being the strongest Captain before any of his various defeats.

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    In their opening modes I'd give the fight to Komamura. He actually seems to have some hand to hand skill in addition to his strength while Yammy is... Yammy... which is still a step up from being Zommari.

    Yammy didn't show any ability to tank bankai level attacks based on how Kenpachi and Byakuya were cutting him up, I still say that Ichigo's powers were wonky at that point and that's why he was unable to hurt Yammy. On the flipside I don't think that Komamura's done that either. So they'll probably beat each other bloody until Yammy gets really pissed and super-mega sized. At that point I'm thinking that his bigger stature would be a bit too much for Komamura.

    ...oh dear lord. I just said that Yammy wins a fight.

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    Seriously, even base Yammy is kinda impressive, objectively. His Hierro was strong enough that Yoruichi seriously injured her arm and leg from smacking him without using Shunko, and Komamura's bankai was pretty much made of fail for all the good it did against anyone above random fraccion level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Drunkard Kid View Post
    Seriously, even base Yammy is kinda impressive, objectively. His Hierro was strong enough that Yoruichi seriously injured her arm and leg from smacking him without using Shunko,
    And that wasn't even Yammy at full power, before he spent a whole storyarc eating and sleeping to store reiatsu. When he reappeared he was notably larger and supposedly more powerful.

    and Komamura's bankai was pretty much made of fail for all the good it did against anyone above random fraccion level.
    Still, I think Komamura's bankai may be best suited for opponents like resurreccion Yammy - large, physically powerful enemies who can soak a lot of damage, and that aren't fast or nimble enough to avoid it. Hence this rumble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Drunkard Kid View Post
    Seriously, even base Yammy is kinda impressive, objectively. His Hierro was strong enough that Yoruichi seriously injured her arm and leg from smacking him without using Shunko, and Komamura's bankai was pretty much made of fail for all the good it did against anyone above random fraccion level.
    To be fair though, the one thing that Komamura has one Yoruichi is lifting and hitting strength. So I think that Yammy's hierro wouldn't be that much of a bother, especially since this is the version that got his arm cut off by an Ichigo who was unable to match Grimmjow's strength at that point.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    And that wasn't even Yammy at full power, before he spent a whole storyarc eating and sleeping to store reiatsu. When he reappeared he was notably larger and supposedly more powerful.
    Fat lot of good that did against eyepatch-wearing Kenpachi.
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    Still, I think Komamura's bankai may be best suited for opponents like resurreccion Yammy - large, physically powerful enemies who can soak a lot of damage, and that aren't fast or nimble enough to avoid it. Hence this rumble.
    Which is why I think that in a prolonged fight the advantage belongs to Yammy. They can both endure the damage given to them but they're not exactly just shrugging it off and when Yammy grows into his over-sized anger mode he heals. Komamura does not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul # 7 View Post
    So I think that Yammy's hierro wouldn't be that much of a bother, especially since this is the version that got his arm cut off by an Ichigo who was unable to match Grimmjow's strength at that point.
    Actually, I was thinking this is Yammy at his strongest.

    Fat lot of good that did against eyepatch-wearing Kenpachi.
    No, I was talking about his regular form, not his resurreccion. Dude literally doubled in size just from eating and sleeping a lot.

    He still got owned by Ishida, granted, but then again Ishida had prep.

    Which is why I think that in a prolonged fight the advantage belongs to Yammy. They can both endure the damage given to them but they're not exactly just shrugging it off and when Yammy grows into his over-sized anger mode he heals. Komamura does not.
    Fair point. For what it's worth, though, I think Komamura's bankai is larger then Ira Yammy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    Actually, I was thinking this is Yammy at his strongest.
    But there's not really much to indicate that there's any difference from the two instances besides Yammy growing in size.
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    No, I was talking about his regular form, not his resurreccion. Dude literally doubled in size just from eating and sleeping a lot.
    But... it's his resurreccion form. It supposed to be stronger than his regular form.
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    He still got owned by Ishida, granted, but then again Ishida had prep.
    The mine's were prep. Prep was however not needed to pierce Yammy's skin.
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    Fair point. For what it's worth, though, I think Komamura's bankai is larger then Ira Yammy.
    Is Ira Yammy Yammy when he first releases or when he gets super-angry and grows uber-giant?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul # 7 View Post
    But... it's his resurreccion form. It supposed to be stronger than his regular form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul # 7 View Post
    But there's not really much to indicate that there's any difference from the two instances besides Yammy growing in size.
    Well, it was implied from the context, and I think I at least recall him blasting through walls Kool Aid Man-style.

    Or it might just have made his Resurreccion more powerful, Idon't quie remember.

    But... it's his resurreccion form. It supposed to be stronger than his regular form.
    I have no idea what you are talking about here.

    I was refering to the fact that Yammy at the time of his first appearance was smaller and supposedly weaker then when he reappeared later. His resurreccion has nothing to do with that.

    Is Ira Yammy Yammy when he first releases or when he gets super-angry and grows uber-giant?
    Ira is his Resurreccion. It's when his tattoo goes from 10 to 0 and he turns into a centipede kaiju.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy1 View Post


    Let's be fair; Zommari's resurreccion was incredibly broken. He was just an enormous idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    Well, it was implied from the context, and I think I at least recall him blasting through walls Kool Aid Man-style.
    To be fair, he didn't really have the chance to do so before that scene.
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    I have no idea what you are talking about here.
    I was refering to the fact that Yammy at the time of his first appearance was smaller and supposedly weaker then when he reappeared later. His resurreccion has nothing to do with that.[/QUOTE]I said that Kenpachi cut up Yammy while wearing his eyepatch to imply that his supposed upgrade didn't do jack shit.

    You said something about talking about his regular form which had grown to twice its regular size.

    I figured that you meant that Yammy's regular, if recently enlarged, form had better defence than his resurreccion form to which I replied that I figured his resurreccion form was supposed to make him stronger.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    Ira is his Resurreccion. It's when his tattoo goes from 10 to 0 and he turns into a centipede kaiju.
    I know that. I just wanted to know if you were talking about regular Ira Yammy or Yammy after he got an even bigger form that Kenpachi and Byakuya beat off-screen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy1 View Post

    His resurreccion is stronger than his sealed form. It's just that Zommari is about as smart as a hollowed out cuecumber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    Let's be fair; Zommari's resurreccion was incredibly broken. He was just an enormous idiot.
    I think he had a disease.

    I'll call it shonenitis.

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