Nubia as a villain in Young Justice Invasion??!!!

[PauloIapetus]

BTW



Could JLA Unlimited's Circe indeed actualy be...


...Marvel's Multiple Man in drag?

Who can truly predict the impact that so many multiple doppelgängers can have upon a young's guy's psyche...

[PauloIapetus]

Dude, it is and always was Queen Bee of Bialya.

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Which one of them, I'd say? Because the original that I truly knew was white skinned.But thanks for the picture

[Outside_85]

ROFL. Outside you just cant win.

Well Paulolapetus' avatar reminds me strikingly of Vampire Hunter D and just about every other tall, skinny, white person from anime-land...must be the same...

[PauloIapetus]

Yeah Outside, It shows quite well how much "inside" the thread you are...If you are truly determined at confusing Vampire Hunter D with Shirahime Shou, more power to you...

And, Icefan I'd say that apparently, changing the colour scheme of a picture in order to make a point seems to me an unfair tactic, even facilitated by modern computerized resources...





Better luck next time...

[PauloIapetus]

And I'd like of sharing this astonishing picture of Queen Bee. In that style and countenance she seems reminiscent of Komand'er looks.

[Theozilla]

PauloIapetus, out of curiosity do you hold the belief that artists/character-designers can be influenced by older characters without knowing it? Because I doubt that artists was consciously thinking of Komand'r when he/she made that piece of art. It seems like even if Phil Bourassa claimed Nubia was not a source of inspiration for Queen Bee's design you would still be pointing out the superficial similarities (that you apparently see).

[Outside_85]

Yeah Outside, It shows quite well how much "inside" the thread you are...If you are truly determined at confusing Vampire Hunter D with Shirahime Shou, more power to you.

Well I just jumped on your train of logic that a very vague resemblance in a cartoon to a comic book character was enough to link them. In cartoons it is a time saving move that the animators only work with a limited number of face-molds and bodies considering the amount of times they have to animate them, settling with making the differences in colors and other minor details rather than recreating the entire character from scratch. Which is also why linking the likeness between a cartoon and a comic book image is not the best option, since cartoon have much less detail on them than a comic does.

[PauloIapetus]

Yeah, Outside, as my early joke in the previous page should have made clear to you, I'm well aware of the jocose spirit with which you are making your replys.

But, as I have said more than one time in the thread, if you are just only taking into account the similarities in the design, the visual resemblances, out of its context, a context that INCLUDES the fact that the similarities* were non-existent in ANY previous version of the characters and the "thematic parallels" alluded and succinctly explained by me and American Wonder, the "historical" similarities between Nubia, Queen Bee and Star Sapphire, I'm sorry, but you ( and others) are actualy entirely missing the point and I don't see advantage in paying attention to your replys anymore, since that you are not truly "hearing" what I've tried to say in the topic.

* Mind you, not only between Queen Bee and Nubia but also between Queen Bee and Wonder woman in the cartoon)

Best regards

[PauloIapetus]

PauloIapetus, out of curiosity do you hold the belief that artists/character-designers can be influenced by older characters without knowing it? Because I doubt that artists was consciously thinking of Komand'r when he/she made that piece of art. It seems like even if Phil Bourassa claimed Nubia was not a source of inspiration for Queen Bee's design you would still be pointing out the superficial similarities (that you apparently see).

Yeah, there are always a large bit of subconscious influences in the backstages of any visual media, Theozila. In that previous image, however, I'd be hard pressed to think that Komand'er and the HIVE Queen, were not part of the mix ( conscious or subconsciously). Young Justice Queen Bee's facial features are harsh but NOT that harsh as Komand'er's are. This is a development added by the Deviant artist. And the HIVE motives and the dove are, IMO, intentionaly reminiscent of Pérez's portrayal of the HIVE leader.





Now if the design resemblances between Queen Bee/Wondy/Nubia in the cartoon as well as the change of skin colour are simply a product of unconscious thought-process or, indeed, a deliberate choice, only time will tell. Regardless of what are our personal beliefs about the issue, I think that the similarities, coincidental or not, should be discussed with more care and detail here or elsewhere.
Feel free to think otherwise

PS:About the reliability of Cartoon/Comic book creators and their declarations, taking into account the subconscious influence and numerous episodes in which they have contradicted themselves, I' d say to you that I'd evaluate them in a case-by-case basis.

[PauloIapetus]

Ahhh Pérez...



I think that if Jerome K.Moore, indeed, used or not this picture above is beside the point! The design by itself doesn't "do" anything. But, whichever is the case, the outcome was truly astounding.

Cheers to both of them.

[Rob_Olivera]

Unfortunately, art is art and artists are artists, good and bad and some with more limitations than others. Not all can make a character look different as we look in real life, just as below.

[PauloIapetus]

And talk about difference here!!

Ahhhh, Lynda...

[Outside_85]

Yeah, Outside, as my previous joke in the previous page should have made clear to you, I'm well aware of the jocous spirit with which you are making your replys.

But, as I have said more than one time in the thread, if you are just only taking into account the similarities in the design, the visual resemblances, out of its context, a context that INCLUDES the fact that the similarities* were non-existent in ANY previous version of the characters and the "thematic parallels" alluded and sucinctly explained by me and American Wonder, the "historical" similarities between Nubia, Queen Bee and Star Sapphire, I'm sorry, but you ( and others) are actualy missing the point entirely and I don't see advantage in paying attention to your replys anymore, since that you are not truly "hearing" what I've tried to say in the topic.

* Mind you, not only between Queen Bee and Nubia but also between Queen Bee and Wonder woman in the cartoon)

Best regards

And you missed the overall point entirely, well done. (psst...THERE IS NO CONNECTION!)

[PauloIapetus]

Fair enough, doesn't make any difference, whatever you are saying. When feedback is turned to "foodback" is pointless to regard as conversation what is truly "deaf-talk".

Specialy when, apparently, someone tries to change the colour of an image posted in the Internet in order to emphasize/simulate a point; it's obvious that the conversation isn't a productive thing and specious logic has become an eligible tool .

[Theozilla]

Fair enough, doesn't make any difference, whatever you are saying. When feedback is turned to foodback is pointless to regard as conversation what is truly "deaf-talking".

Specialy when, apparently, someone tries to change the colour of an image posted in the Internet in order to emphasize/simulate a point, it's obvious that the conversation isn't a productive thing.

I think it is more that other people (myself included) don't see the similarities you seem to see and/or don't think that the superficial similarities are enough warrant speculation that Phil Bourassa (or that deviantArt person) were influenced by older comic book artists depictions of other characters like Nubia, Komand'r, or the HIVE Queen.