Azzarello and Chiang at Chicago Con-- Spoilers--?

[Maximum Impact]

And how many are you? I've seen people here thumb down a run out of spite, with completely no basis at all.

It may seem like no basis to you, but to those people the reasons are very valid.

[Wulfmir]

It may seem like no basis to you, but to those people the reasons are very valid.

Someone got hit! And I wasn't even talking about you.

[Maximum Impact]

Someone got hit! And I wasn't even talking about you.

Oh I know you weren't talking about me. My arguments always have a foundation and if you feel they don't see my last reply.

[Wulfmir]

Well, I started with "I, for one," so I'd say...one :)

And yes, ever since there were bulletin boards there have been people who thumb down runs out of spite. They don't like a writer. They don't like the artist. They don't like a supporting cast member. They got up on the wrong side of the bed ;)

This is why I speak for myself as I hate being lumped in with a 'hive mind.'

However, in this particular thread, everyone I've seen who dislikes the book or some aspect of the book has a reasonable explanation. Folks may disagree with them, which is not only their right but the glory of message board threads throughout history, but it doesn't invalidate their reasons.

None of the reasons I've seen cited are factually incorrect (I may have missed some). None of them are 'personal' reasons (i.e. Azzarello's dog has the same name as my ex-girlfriend so I hate anything he does) and none of them are inconsequential, imo. Their reasons may not resonate with you just as the reasons people like the book or aspects of the book may not resonate with them. One man's caviar is another man's icky salty fish eggs :)

It's hard having a discussion when one side doesn't acknowledge the validity of the points of the other side (which I've seen for pro and con) I don't see anyone here, though, who is either thumbing the run up or down with no basis at all.

Completely agree, these discussions practically make me scratch my head, dumbfounded, like who's convincing who.

[Wulfmir]

Oh I know you weren't talking about me. My arguments are valid.

Nope, they your reasons fail. Your preferences just prevent you from recognizing it.

[Maximum Impact]

Nope, they your reasons fail. Your preferences just prevent you from recognizing it.

Looks like you should have done some editing like I did.

[Wulfmir]

Looks like you should have done some editing like I did.

Why? I've said for a pretty large number of times what I prefer for a Wonder Woman comic to be. And I don't have it in Azzarello's version, but I don't go about being bitter and fail to recognize an intriguing story for what it is.

[Maximum Impact]

Why? I've said for a pretty large number of times what I prefer for a Wonder Woman comic to be. And I don't have it in Azzarello's version, but I don't go about being bitter and fail to recognize an intriguing story for what it is.

I didn't say it wasn't intriguing, I said it wasn't Wonder Woman.

[Wulfmir]

I didn't say it wasn't intriguing, I said it wasn't Wonder Woman.

What did I say about preferences? There are others who have said more eloquently why they disagree with you, especially on that last bit. You're funny!

[SteveGus]

I don't go about being bitter and fail to recognize an intriguing story for what it is.

If it were only another arc, even a twelve or thirteen issue one, that would be one thing. I don't want her origin in the Nu52 universe to be "last survivor of a barbarian tribe" or her chief role to be "humanity's defense against Olympian gods who've never been villains or threatened the human race before."

[Maximum Impact]

What did I say about preferences? There are others who have said more eloquently why they disagree with you, especially on that last bit. You're funny!

I know, it's one of my better qualities along with my loyalty and ability to see reason.

[Wulfmir]

If it were only another arc, even a twelve or thirteen issue one, that would be one thing. I don't want her origin in the Nu52 universe to be "last survivor of a barbarian tribe" or her chief role to be "humanity's defense against Olympian gods who've never been villains or threatened the human race before."

It is not what I expected either, quite far actually. But I can't deny the critical acclaim this book is having and the reach it is having to new readers or those that haven't been following the title. Shows what "you" and "I" know.

[americanwonder]

Wulfmir, what's up? You seem a tad bitter and cranky today.

[Wulfmir]

Wulfmir, what's up? You seem a tad bitter and cranky today.

Cranky? I'm having fun! It's not like we haven't done this dance before.

[americanwonder]

This is your "fun"? Your posts seem overly agressive to me.

What do you like about the story so far?