True Blood -- Season Five

[Chiasm]

I completely fell in love with Pam last night in the first 10 minutes.

I loved her lines (I don't recall exact wording) of:

What if she comes back ****tarded?

A reference to Sookies super snatch.

And the reference to wearing a Walmart sweatsuit.

[Mac Danny]

So how about Newlins gay turn?

I always thought Newlin was gay. Now that he is a vampire he can be out about it.

[Chiasm]

Well sure, but I'd just assumed the person she was pretending to be was a lesbian(but she could of been bi).



At first yes, but after joining forces with Marnie I think she pretty much became more then just a guest. At that point Lafayette wasn't even with her anymore.



I thought it was implied that's how she was earning her money in her new life.



See I think this is the problem with entertainment today. People are too worried about certain things. For me, the red flag is that whenever a fictional character dies we have to make sure it's ok..to make sure this person is or isn't the right race or sexuality. I'm not saying kill her because she's black, but rather I don't think they should choose not to kill her simply because she is black or bi sexual.

I so far haven't seen any hints that the people behind the show are racist or hate gay/bisexuals. If they did, Lafayette would of been dead and gone years ago. If Tara dies it isn't because she is black or bi sexual..it's because her best friend chose to get involved heavily in the affairs of vampires and other supernatural beings, with Tara choosing to still remain involved in said friends life. Just like Jesus wasn't killed because he was gay..he was killed because a witch wanted his power. Their deaths came down to choices each had made, none of which had anything to do with race or sexuality(Tara chose to remain in Sookie's life, Jesus chose to use his demonic gifts in front of Marnie).

Though if Tara does die I wouldn't read too much into it. For her being bi wasn't a big part of her character..it was something they just tacked on in the 4th season. I don't think her dying would mean anything in regards to the attitude towards gay/bisexuals..any more then her dying would mean anything in regards to the attitude towards MMA fighters.

I get why people would do this, but these days it seems like no matter what you do someone is always going to get offended. I wish people would just sit back and enjoy the show and if they don't like something then they can watch one of the hundreds of other channels that are out there.

I agree with you.

I'm sure that right now somewhere gay groups are already spreading outrage that the new gay character (the minister whatever his name is) on the show is one of the bad guys because history shows that any time a special interest group character is the bad guy the group protests.

Too often you see a lot of vehement outrage anytime a minority or gay character is killed or made out to be the bad guy. Look at what happened on Buffy when they killed Tara and the entitlement that the gay community outraged with when it happened.

[Greg Anderson]

Russell and his boyfriend were villains and gay. Season 1 also had the three vampire trio and one of them was also gay. Pam, who's not really a good guy, but is a Lesbian. You also had Nan Flannigan who was a lesbian.

There's sexuality of all forms in this show. Good guys and bad guys. Hasn't been that big of a deal or outrage.

[Phil Clark]

Look at what happened on Buffy when they killed Tara and the entitlement that the gay community outraged with when it happened.

To be fair... that was a different time. Tara and Willow were two of the very few openly gay characters on Television at that time, so there was an understandable outrage. Today, there are many many more gay characters on shows. So there is less of an outcry when one dies. After all, gays are mortal. They do die. It happens.

[Romero]

The scene where Bill is on the phone and Eric is behind him cleaning the office superfast was pretty funny. As was the name "Ike Applebaum" and Eric's reaction to it.

[Legato]

Oh I don't think you specifically were offended, it's just something that seems to be cropping up more and more lately, I can see how some might get into an uproar, but for me they are just missing the point. This is supposed to be entertainment. If they are worrying about how many members of a specific race or sexuality are getting killed then what is the point? Especially since this isn't ground breaking television really. I love the show, but it's a trashy soap opera..just with more violence and nudity then normal. It is not going to influence a generation of people to become racist, etc. They could even have every single character from now on who dies only be black and gay and it still would probably fail to influence anyone.

I think if you watch the show the reasons the various people died make sense.

As for the episode itself, I liked it. I'm enjoying seeing Eric and Bill team up. I loved Eric saying "fuck Sookie" when sensing she needs help. It will be nice to see Eric and Bill doing something that has nothing to do with Sookie.

I really don't like the idea of Tara becoming a vampire though. Now I can just imagine we'll have to hear her constantly complaining about how she hates herself and whatnot.

I'm a bit disappointed we didn't see much of Russell, though I did find it hilarious Alcide thought he could somehow protect anyone from him.

I did like how Lafayette got all up in Alcide's face.

Eric's "fuck sookie" comment was surprising yet in character for him. Didn't take him long to get over her and I gotta say it's good to see the old Eric Northman back.

I'm really not too surprised with Tara being a vampire. I've always figured she would end up being one down the road as the universes way of telling her "You hate vampires then you will become one". Also this reminds me of when Caroline turned in Vampire Diaries, minus the "came back wrong" scenario.

If I had to pick a storyline I dont like it's Terry's storyline. When compared to the rest I'm just not that into the arc involving his former war buddy returning

[Legato]

Russell and his boyfriend were villains and gay. Season 1 also had the three vampire trio and one of them was also gay. Pam, who's not really a good guy, but is a Lesbian. You also had Nan Flannigan who was a lesbian.

There's sexuality of all forms in this show. Good guys and bad guys. Hasn't been that big of a deal or outrage.

You also have Lafayette, whose one of the main characters, and is also gay. Oddly he's also one of the few morally stable people on the show

[Havok C.]

Very good start to the season. Can't wait to see Russel make a come back.

[Romero]

I'm not surprised Tara is a vampire. I am surprised that it was Pam who turned her. With their history, it might have been more fun to have Pam just save her with her blood, then do that whole "attraction" thing between a vamp and a human who has consumed their blood. Even turning Tara, but keeping her old personality, could cause some fun sparks between them. The previews make it seem like Tara will be some sort of mindless vampire killing machine. Which is ok, but I think the catfighting that could have gone on would have been funnier. Anything that brings out more bitchy Pam is funnier.

[DBrewer75]

When the Rev was about to put the tape over Jason's mouth he said something about the only thing Jason would remember was inviting him in and asking for the tape to be put over his mouth. It kinda makes me wonder what else went on that we didn't see.

Pam makes the show for me... she consistantly gets the funniest lines and always gets to be a bad mother******. She is awesome.

Andy must have worked out all year to get in shape for his nude scene. I don't recall him being that in shape last season.

[Kurri]

i like the show, but the main characters never die. seems like they are never really in any danger. I guessed tara would become a vampire because they never kill off any characters. I dont know, still alot of fun though!

I think Pam stole the show with her dialog last night.

[MichaelChen]

I'm a bit disappointed we didn't see much of Russell, though I did find it hilarious Alcide thought he could somehow protect anyone from him.

No shit. Even thousand-plus-year-old vamps like the Magister are bugs to King Russel. What can Alcide do except bleed on the King's shoes?

[Greg Anderson]

i like the show, but the main characters never die. seems like they are never really in any danger. I guessed tara would become a vampire because they never kill off any characters. I dont know, still alot of fun though!

I think Pam stole the show with her dialog last night.

She's been stealing the show since season 1. I'm glad she's become a series regular.

[Havok C.]

No shit. Even thousand-plus-year-old vamps like the Magister are bugs to King Russel. What can Alcide do except bleed on the King's shoes?

I've heard people saying that some characters that are being introduced this season who are apart of the Authority are over 5000 years old so if Russel becomes a real problem...no big deal. Actually, that might have been from this thread.

And it makes sense there would be vampires that old in that group seeing as how they are The Authority so they probably have some of the oldest vampires on Earth in order to maintain their laws obviously.