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    Quote Originally Posted by coconutphone View Post
    Well we can also blame Doom as per The Children's Crusade.
    Haven't read it yet. Doom is always a good bet to be involved, though, its his way.

    Quote Originally Posted by mugiwara View Post
    The amount of hate spilled on Dan Slott and Joe Q after OMD is a shame for all us comics fans.
    Nah, I disagree. At least, its not any more shame than society already feels at seeing an entire adult population get all worked up about whether Flash can beat Spider-Man (he would, by the way). Its shameful to the people making the comments, but I daresay none of us feels worse about the rest of us just because some idiot wished cancer on our man Dan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaggyB View Post
    The problem is that Dan didnt write that either. He wrote about having problems with people wishing him cancer, spoiling Avengers and messing with his personal life. Again can you point to where he says that he has problems with hearing about how people dont like his work in what he wrote in that quote?
    Every part where he doesnt mention cancer and Avengers and the phone number.
    By the way, he has written about this before in this board.

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    Man, that's messed up. Even though we disagree on several things, I have to say that Slott is one of the nicest creators I have ever had the pleasure of debating/talking to online and he DOES NOT deserve that kind of abuse online. Hell, no pro (including a Wacker) regardless of how "mean" or "arrogant" they may come off online, deserves to be treated and subjected to the kind of cyber bullying that Slott has been subjected to. It's because of crap like this (specifically the posting of his phone number online) why I won't reveal my real name online or reveal the name of the comic shop that I work at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sighphi View Post
    Every part where he doesnt mention cancer and Avengers and the phone number.
    By the way, he has written about this before in this board.
    You seem to have a complete lack of comprehension of what Slott is saying.
    He does not have a problem with people disliking his writing. He does not have a problem with people giving him criticism.
    He has a problem with people harassing him online to the point of trying to ruin his personal life, with no accountability, because they don't like how he's writing Spider-Man.
    Do you really not see the difference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramage View Post
    Dan seems to have an unusual amount of problems with online fans, doesn't he? Maybe we just hear about it more?

    Kind of begs the question.
    I don't even know if fan is the right word for someone who makes threats involving a guy's address.

    On a Spider-Man board, we're going to be more familiar with incidents involving that character's creative teams, so we are going to hear about it more.

    Slott is also amongst the most accessible creators on the internet, which means he's going to interact with fans more. And some of those interactions will not be positive. That's just the law of averages.
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    That is just messed up that some one would wish cancer on Mr. Slott! What a jerk and you know what, it may sound terrible but I hope that individual gets cancer so he can see what its like to live with first hand! What a Jerk! Personally Dan, I think you are a great writer and hope you continue to write Spider-man comics for years to come. I know I had my disagreements with Mr. Wacker about bringing Ben Reilly back, but come on I would never wish cancer or be an @$$ to harm some one over something so trivial. Well keep your head up Dan and know most fans loveeeeee your work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by derekakadrock View Post
    You seem to have a complete lack of comprehension of what Slott is saying.
    He does not have a problem with people disliking his writing. He does not have a problem with people giving him criticism.
    He has a problem with people harassing him online to the point of trying to ruin his personal life, with no accountability, because they don't like how he's writing Spider-Man.
    Do you really not see the difference?
    He does but he is a straight troll, don't feed it.
    Why should I want to make anything up? Life's bad enough as it is without trying to invent any more of it.

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    Yikes, that's really crappy.

    I didn't follow Dan on Formspring but if it brings that much grief then yeah it's time to cut it away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaggyB View Post
    then you are not the reason why. Its not even about dumb questions, its about cyber stalking. When someone posts your personal info online they have crossed a line. Thats something Dan doesnt want to put up with. I agree with him. Best to not put up with it. Account closed and then move on.
    If this were the case, then ....well, I don't even know how society can function.

    Anonymous or not, accurate or no, fair or not, notoriety comes with perks and burdens. Every single person who interacts with other people will encounter "haters" and people who are unreasonable. Famous people will get haters that they've never met based on the one-sided interaction that occurs with fame. And they won't go away, even if you stop paying attention to them. That's the thing that perhaps bothers me about this decision. The thing the trolls want is for you to shut up and go away. They're not going to stop just because you don't have that forum anymore. They'll continue on anyway. The only ones this decision hurts are the people who wanted to use it legitimately. The trolls just celebrate that they got to you.

    Quote Originally Posted by stewart48 View Post
    When you reach a certain level of success people for some reason feel it us OK to knock someone in personal insensitive ways, these sad people feel achievement that they bring you down and put them in their place. Dan Slott is just lucky he is a writer and not a politician then it would be 20 Tim's worse for him and his family.

    I think people tend to dehumanized people they only see on paper or through a TV camera. Worst time in my life was when my dad ran for a political office and all the phone calls and hateful comments made about my dads personal character. People called and threatened us and threw names at my mom and brother. The things people said had very little to do with politics they were just deeply personal, insensitive, and hateful. My dad ran for a state rep position couldn't imagine what it would have been like if he were a congressman or senator
    ^This is a perfect example. It comes with the territory.It sucks, I wish it were not so, but that's just the reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Will.S View Post
    Yikes, that's really crappy.

    I didn't follow Dan on Formspring but if it brings that much grief then yeah it's time to cut it away.
    This, of course, is the more simple counter-point. If it's just bringing you misery, then quitting is probably what you should do. You said it so much simpler than I could in the first part of my post.
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    Ironically, this is exactly why many people choose to be anonymous, to avoid harassment in their everyday lives over petty, meaningless stuff like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sighphi View Post
    Every part where he doesnt mention cancer and Avengers and the phone number.
    where? Im not seeing anything that matches what you are talking about.... Makes me wonder if you read what he said? He doesnt talk about people just disliking his work, he talks about people taking it to the next level and messing with his personal life / wishing him death. Im sorry but "I hate what you are doing to Spider-man" and "I hope you get cancer and die so someone else can write Spider-man" are two completely different things. Hes quitting formspring for the line being crossed.... not for someone hating his work and expressing that in a reasonable way.

    By the way, he has written about this before in this board.
    So you want to discuss Dan Slott the poster / what hes said in other threads, not the subject of this thread (which would be Dan Slott's decision to leave formspring)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaggyB View Post
    where? Im not seeing anything that matches what you are talking about.... Makes me wonder if you read what he said?
    Everything that doesnt include the stuff about Avengers, telephone, is there on the post, right?
    Did you read those parts? Cause it seems that for some strange reason you are ignoring that and only focusing the examples he chose to present as the worst.

    He doesnt talk about people just disliking his work, he talks about people taking it to the next level and messing with his personal life / wishing him death. Im sorry but "I hate what you are doing to Spider-man" and "I hope you get cancer and die so someone else can write Spider-man" are two completely different things. Hes quitting formspring for the line being crossed.... not for someone hating his work and expressing that in a reasonable way.
    He is also discussing about people saying simply hating on his work.
    This is why he didnt get to the personal stuff until half way into the that post.
    He clearly mentions people just acting like dicks.

    So you want to discuss Dan Slott the poster / what hes said in other threads, not the subject of this thread (which would be Dan Slott's decision to leave formspring)?
    I'm discussing the subject of this thread which has been brought up here by Dan before.
    He has said these basic exact words about this same exact subject before.
    The one difference is that now he added that he is quitting formspring.
    This isnt some new revelation with some completely new information that has never been heard.

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    Sighphi seems to be the hardest person to get along with on here. I seriously don't understand why you are being so difficult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sighphi View Post
    He is also discussing about people saying simply hating on his work.
    No. I didn't.

    You have the post here on this thread. Please quote where I said that.
    The post was about unacceptable behavior where some posters crossed the line to try and have an effect on my REAL WORLD life.
    If you're reading any more into that, I'm sorry but that's on you.

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