Ultimates #9 Spoilers/Discussion

[Plawsky]

So was the Kid at the end of this issue kind of like Anton 1 From Ultimate Comics Ultimates #2 ? Or is it Anton 1?

I was thinking the same thing at first, but he said he never received a name, and Ultimates #2 says he was destroyed.

But they sure do look a lot alike.

[robcastor729]

I was thinking the same thing at first, but he said he never received a name, and Ultimates #2 says he was destroyed.

But they sure do look a lot alike.

Oh that's right. Maybe he was like Anton 1 from one of the Cribs that were destroyed

[Codah]

Oh that's right. Maybe he was like Anton 1 from one of the Cribs that were destroyed

I don't think he is. What would be the point?

[PhilUrich'sFlamingSword]

No problem with long posts, no problem at all. You should just tell your stream of consciousness to stream out the enter key once in a while.

I've posted on these boards quite a few times since I joined up last June, as you can see from my numbers, but last night I think I put up the three longest posts I've ever had on here, by a long shot. Most of my posts were four or five sentences tops, so I never really had to consider how it would actually look on the screen. Wolverine(sorry I don't remember the number) wrote something about a big wall of words, and it's an apt description. I've been going back and editing my posts to break them up a bit and make them easier to read, and I shall do so from the start in the future. Thanks for your time, True Believers! Excelsi...ah damnit. I started daydreaming that I was Stan Lee while I was typing again. See? This is how my mind works.

[Number_5]

I don't think he is. What would be the point?

Exactly. I think he was clearly just a failed specimen, a child that didn't come out quite right, and Reed had him tucked away for a rainy day.

[robcastor729]

I don't think he is. What would be the point?

What was the point of Anton 1? To create new life from the DNA of one of the Children and not one of the cribs

[Wellman]

I don't think he is. What would be the point?

Exactly what happened at the end of the issue but without worrying about losing anything of worth.

[Sinx]

Man this issue was insane! I can't wait for the next one.

[Codah]

Exactly what happened at the end of the issue but without worrying about losing anything of worth.

Yeah but it could have been Anton 1 or any other baby. It makes no difference to the story. If you guys wanna think that's who it was, then sure but it really doesn't matter.

[Robbie_Jee]

I was being crude

[Kid Kamikaze10]

Really? They just got their asses handed to them by the children... Who also easily overpowered the European super-army.
I'm getting sick and tired of Reed Richards and his army of Mary Sues. At this point they've continuously overpowered anything thrown at them and instead of upping the stakes, it's devalued their contribution to the plot - 'cause now we know they'll have to use a Deus Ex Machina to end them. Predictability is, to me personally, one of the greatest flaws a plot can have.

I'm thinking that either The City or the Children are going to implode. I think someone else has brought this up, but what if they go Shockwave on Reed? (Aka: We are better than you, GTFO)

[Robbie_Jee]

The question is how will Hickman resolve Spider Womans current situation? Im worried we wont see her again for awhile, since shes in Flumm's custody now and essentially "taken care of" plot-wise at the moment

I'd imagine she'd break free from the cube with Captain Britain and She-Hulk.

Yes and one of the agents wasn't sure that it could hold him. That the cube could hold She-Hulk but probably not Captain Britian. Is that true? Could the British Captain of the EDI be stronger than any of us could've imagined? What strength could he possess if he said that his abilities lie beyond measurable levels? A powerful rage that unleashes, similarly to the Hulk? I don't know, but I want to find out. But of course, Captain America's the main daddy so of course he'll always be number one.

[Cryptid]

I mean to be fair, I understand Hickmans reasoning in taking Spider Woman off the board for the moment. She would just be standing on the hovercraft with Hawkeye, Widow, and Fury if she were in the fight anyway. I mean granted she wouldnt be unconscious and imprisoned, but still relegated to background duty nonetheless.

For the last few issues, since Thor ended his rampage in the city, virtually every member of the Ultimates has spent more page-time as an observer than an active agent, with the possible exception of Falcon and the Hulk. I don't think it's especially surprising that Hickman has favored high concepts over character moments, since that has been his MO on virtually everything he's done. He's better at writing polities and institutions than people, give or take Valeria Richards.

It's true that New Ultimates gave more scenes to female team-members, but the book's attempts at girl-power seemed thoroughly hamstrung by cheese-cake visuals and character arcs that empowered them according to a cartoonishly low standard. Valkyrie's big thing is that she doesn't need Thor?

[tabo61]

I liked how Hickman sets up the cliffhanger to this issue. That was a big surprise for me.

[CaptainMarvell]

Just read this last night... INCREDIBLE! I wonder how much exactly that bomb at the end wiped out. All of Washington DC? Maryland? Great stuff. I just love Reed in this story. Even though he's the villain I find myself rooting for Reed. Like when I saw the City all tore up from the nukes, I actually felt bad and I was really impressed with his calm yet extremely violent retaliation. Two things: 1.) How quick can they rebuild? 2.) Reed didn't have a plan to stop an assault like this? He had to know that when desperate enough that the US would throw every nuke they had at him. Granted, it only took out a small percentage of the City, but I just can't see an advanced race of humans getting hit by something, that would be by their standards, so primitive.

Reed is definitely the US's most wanted, which makes me wonder what in the world could Kitty Pryde do that makes her the most wanted terrorist in the US?

I think Reed Richards or Zorn just became the most powerful man in the world. Flumm may have control of armies and other countires but he still has to bow down to Reed Richards. And in turn Reed Richards has to bow down to Zorn because there is no way Reed can beat someone that powerful.

I wouldn't be so sure of that. This is Reed Richards, the king of adapting, we're talking about here. Zorn will not be able to use his black hole power as effectively the next time they meet. Reed will figure out a way to collapse this black hole before it causes too much damage. However, we haven't seen what Xorn can do yet and now I'm really intrigued to see after seeing what his brother did.