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    Default The Powerpuff Girls vs the JLU

    The 3 Powerpuff Girls vs the Justice League Unlimited (DCAU), specifically:

    The core 7.
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    Can the DCAU win this or will they get beat? Assume kryptonite is not a factor here.

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    The league gets blitzed I'd imagine. The people you added in addition to the main 7 don't really do much. The only ones that would matter are Supergirl and Fate and they are far too slow.

    Basically, cartoon version of the JLA can't win, but the non-reboot comic versions would stomp there horribly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surtur View Post
    The league gets blitzed I'd imagine. The people you added in addition to the main 7 don't really do much. The only ones that would matter are Supergirl and Fate and they are far too slow.

    Basically, cartoon version of the JLA can't win, but the non-reboot comic versions would stomp there horribly.
    And the reboot versions (so, you know, the current versions) would get equally stomped. The PPGs are out of the new League's, well, league.

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    Actually, Jla 52 could beat the ppg as long as they don't have respectable psychic resistance feats. Barry is still faster than all of them by a good margin. All he needs to do is save Aquaman and keep him alive long enough for him to ten count via mind whammy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Becoming An Anthropologist View Post
    Actually, Jla 52 could beat the ppg as long as they don't have respectable psychic resistance feats. Barry is still faster than all of them by a good margin. All he needs to do is save Aquaman and keep him alive long enough for him to ten count via mind whammy.
    Can Barry speedsteal? If so, he can solo them by himself.

    If not, he really has no feasible way of stopping the girls from killing Aquaman, barring hauling him along with himself at superspeed, trying to dodge the PPG. Which is iffy because they have AoE's available, IIRC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol M View Post
    Can Barry speedsteal? If so, he can solo them by himself.

    If not, he really has no feasible way of stopping the girls from killing Aquaman, barring hauling him along with himself at superspeed, trying to dodge the PPG. Which is iffy because they have AoE's available, IIRC.
    No speedsteal yet for Barry - in fact, I don't think that any version of Barry has done a speedsteal, ever. In any event, are we SURE that the PPG's are SLOWER than NuBarry? Because he most definitely doesn't have any FTL feats, or anything particularly close to that yet. He's done nothing that a couple thousand mach couldn't do, and the narrative has never once said "light speed" for him that I recall. Aren't the PPG's pretty close to light themselves, at least from their high-end feats?

    And they do, IIRC, have AoE's. Barry can pick up Aquaman all he wants, but AM's human-speed reflexes aren't going to buy him anything against the PPGs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_adventure View Post
    No speedsteal yet for Barry - in fact, I don't think that any version of Barry has done a speedsteal, ever. In any event, are we SURE that the PPG's are SLOWER than NuBarry? Because he most definitely doesn't have any FTL feats, or anything particularly close to that yet. He's done nothing that a couple thousand mach couldn't do, and the narrative has never once said "light speed" for him that I recall. Aren't the PPG's pretty close to light themselves, at least from their high-end feats?
    Bubbles and Blossom are, at any rate. So yeah, if Barry doesn't even have near light speed feats, then he has no hope of saving Aquaman.

    And they do, IIRC, have AoE's. Barry can pick up Aquaman all he wants, but AM's human-speed reflexes aren't going to buy him anything against the PPGs.
    If they didn't have AoE's and Barry was faster than them by a sufficient margin, he could probably keep Aquaman out of the way long enough for Aquaman to be able to react and commence the mindwhammy.

    Sadly, that doesn't seem to be the case here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol M View Post
    Bubbles and Blossom are, at any rate. So yeah, if Barry doesn't even have near light speed feats, then he has no hope of saving Aquaman.


    If they didn't have AoE's and Barry was faster than them by a sufficient margin, he could probably keep Aquaman out of the way long enough for Aquaman to be able to react and commence the mindwhammy.

    Sadly, that doesn't seem to be the case here.
    I've read all of Flash and JL so far, and none of his feats are definitively light speed. He's fast as hell, yes, and I don't doubt that Johns is going to have him running at Ludicrous Speed (it's above light speed AND Ridiculous Speed) soon, but so far, he's nothing like light.

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    Why are all you talking about Barry Allen? The op said JLU not JLA. So it's the animated stuff, not the comic stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard Allan View Post
    Why are all you talking about Barry Allen? The op said JLU not JLA. So it's the animated stuff, not the comic stuff.
    The discussion presumably turned to the comic versions because the animated versions get curbstomped even more horribly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_adventure View Post
    I've read all of Flash and JL so far, and none of his feats are definitively light speed. He's fast as hell, yes, and I don't doubt that Johns is going to have him running at Ludicrous Speed (it's above light speed AND Ridiculous Speed) soon, but so far, he's nothing like light.
    Then yeah, that pretty much seals it for the PPG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard Allan View Post
    Why are all you talking about Barry Allen? The op said JLU not JLA. So it's the animated stuff, not the comic stuff.
    "Everyone" agreed straight up that the animated characters get destroyed. Someone proposed post-crisis, pre-nU characters would win, someone else (me, in fact) pointed out that the PPGs would smash nU, so the discussion turned there. Not really derailment, just repurposing. :-)

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    The only JLU character that would matter is AMAZO, who reverses the stomp trivially.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StupidMoniker View Post
    The only JLU character that would matter is AMAZO, who reverses the stomp trivially.
    Does animated Amazo have feats for FTL reflexes and class 100 strength?

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_adventure View Post
    Does animated Amazo have feats for FTL reflexes and class 100 strength?
    Nope, but they are not going to be able to harm him and he can dimension dump entire planets.

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