Xmen Extinction Team vs Justice League

[Mister Knight]

With all the AvX hoopla, it got me to thinking about other titanic clashes. So here's this one. Present day Xmen team vs New 52 JL. Added Martian Manhuter to even the numbers. I think this is a great battle but the edge maybe in Marvel's corner. What say you?

XMen Justice League

Cyclops Superman
Magneto Batman
Magik Wonder Woman
Emma Frost Green Lantern
Colossus(With Juggernaut power) Cyborg
Danger Flash
Storm Aquaman
Hope Mera
Namor Martian Manhunter

[cbrer]

Unless Nu-Flash can blitz Magik, the Nu52 JLA get dimension dumped into Limbo.

[Cthulhu_of_R'yleh]

Unless Nu-Flash can blitz Magik, the Nu52 JLA get dimension dumped into Limbo.

He can.

/limit

[big_adventure]

He can.

/limit

This is probably still a blitz situation - though the NuDC crew is going to have a ton of trouble even scratching Piotr and Namor. They both have very solid class 100 durability (higher for Piotrnaut, of course) and nobody in NuDC has any feats for class 100 activities yet. Hal's GL-ness is pretty unimpressive so far (on that scale), both in his own book and in JLA.

[Captain England]

Cyclops Superman
Magneto Batman
Magik Wonder Woman
Emma Frost Green Lantern
Colossus(With Juggernaut power) Cyborg
Danger Flash
Storm Aquaman
Hope Mera
Namor Martian Manhunter

I love how it looks those are single characters.

"A plane with the Phoenix Force on board is about to creash into NewYorkTropolis...this looks like a job...for CYCLOPS SUPERMAN!"

[Mister Knight]

I think that Danger who is a living computer programmed to come up with scenarios to defeat any and all the X-men would be able to match the Flash seeing as to how computers can compute at near lightspeed. That would allow the others to select opponents and have some one on one battles IMHO.

[big_adventure]

I think that Danger who is a living computer programmed to come up with scenarios to defeat any and all the X-men would be able to match the Flash seeing as to how computers can compute at near lightspeed. That would allow the others to select opponents and have some one on one battles IMHO.

The problem is that she doesn't have feats for reacting at that kind of speed with actions. She might be able to process something that quickly, but it takes her longer to actually do anything.

[Jabare]

Justice League in a stomp

[Mister Knight]

Justice League in a stomp

Any explanation why?

[Drax1981]

Hope's a wild card to me. If she can power steal or has Phoenix abilities then this is going to Extinction pretty easily.
Otherwise, I'd buy Namor and Colussus being able to tank the JL until Magik can work up a spell to send the JL to Limbo.

[Surtur]

Hope's a wild card to me. If she can power steal or has Phoenix abilities then this is going to Extinction pretty easily.
Otherwise, I'd buy Namor and Colussus being able to tank the JL until Magik can work up a spell to send the JL to Limbo.

Since you're saying others would have to tank the JL instead of Magik doing it, then that suggests to me she lacks the durability to survive an attack by a blitzing Superman or Flash. Namor or Colossus could then only prevent it by having reflexes on par with Superman or Flash.

This doesn't mean the JL would win, but that strategy only makes sense if Namor or Colossus suddenly got a huge speed increase.

What about Martian Manhunter? How potents his telepathy?

[big_adventure]

Actually, since there is no Martian Manhunter in Nu, are we talking post crisis MM? If that's the case, he'll solo - he's faster than any of the Nu characters, stronger than any of the Nu characters, and has pretty insane esoterics.

Obviously if we do... something... to let Hope copy powers or let Majik set up DDumps pre-blitz, that changes everything, but for the moment, Barry can blitz and KO all of the fleshies on the X-side, leaving just Piotr and Namor. Nobody (outside of post-crisis MM) on the NuDC side can even really hurt those guys, but then, they can't come close to catching Supes or Barry either.

As a side point, Majik's teleportation/ddumping is her mutant ability, and has nothing to do with magic. She doesn't have to "work up a spell" to do it, she just has to think it. Too bad that her thoughts are far to slow to avoid a flat-out blitz smooshing.

[Mister Knight]

Uh... there is a Nu Martian Manhunter. He is a member of Stormwatch. And thoughts move at close to the speed of light so I'm not sure that Magik couldnt be fast enough or that Danger couldn't be fast enough to handle the Flash.

[Kage Kisaragi]

Unless Nu-Flash can blitz Magik, the Nu52 JLA get dimension dumped into Limbo.

Not to mention Cyborg would just jump them right back in about a second.

[KJ Stewart]

Uh... there is a Nu Martian Manhunter. He is a member of Stormwatch. And thoughts move at close to the speed of light so I'm not sure that Magik couldnt be fast enough or that Danger couldn't be fast enough to handle the Flash.

Thoughts do NOT move at close to the speed of light.