Do you like Brian Azzarello's Wonder Woman?

[Auguste Dupin]

Blocking the beams was impressive. Again, this happened in a JL book versus her own.

If I remember right, she has only blocked/try to block two different attacks in her own book--the first being the arrow which threw her to the ground, and then the love bullets which she couldn't block.

And someone mentioned that Superman said she was strong. While good of him to acknowledge that, it doesn't tell us much except that she has superstrength. Superman may have been surprised to see a woman that could knock heads with the parademons. Since this was their first meeting 5 years back, maybe he hasn't seen anyone besides supergirl with more than normal strength.

If we go that road (aka the "let's not take JL into account"), then for Superman you have Action, where he does cool stunts but is clearly depowered compared to the usual, and Superman, where we haven't seen any impressive stuff since 8 issues. It's a shared universe, y'know, if Wonder Woman can do something in JL, then she can do it in WW, even if Azzarelo doesn't show it. It's just that the love guns are more powerful than Darkseid Omega beams (or have some particularity that allows them to pass the Bracelets).
And it wouldn't be the first time. To go back to the Circle, she's getting her butt kicked by 3 non powered Amazons. That's pretty "lame" if you aske me. Yet, it was a good arc.

[wagthedog]

If we go that road (aka the "let's not take JL into account"), then for Superman you have Action, where he does cool stunts but is clearly depowered compared to the usual, and Superman, where we haven't seen any impressive stuff since 8 issues. It's a shared universe, y'know, if Wonder Woman can do something in JL, then she can do it in WW, even if Azzarelo doesn't show it. It's just that the love guns are more powerful than Darkseid Omega beams (or have some particularity that allows them to pass the Bracelets).
And it wouldn't be the first time. To go back to the Circle, she's getting her butt kicked by 3 non powered Amazons. That's pretty "lame" if you aske me. Yet, it was a good arc.

From what I understand, the depowered Superman that is in action is when he is just starting out. He doesn't come into his full powers till later on--or at least it looks like he is fully powered in JL. I think most of us know that it is only a matter of time in Action (if he doesn't have it already) that he will be to his usual overpowered self.

There are many inconsistencies which I and other readers have pointed out with respect to JL. This is the only reason why I would like to see her fly in her own book. I would love to know that what she does in JL she should be able to do in her own book. But I keep coming back to the Green Lantern taxi and it just doesn't make sense to me.

And as an aside, I agree with you about the fight scenes in the Circle. That made no sense to me either and because of this I didn't really like the story arc.

[Destro777]

Long time comic fan and never cared for the character before, till now. Outside of Morrison's Batman, WW is the only DC book that appeals to me. Azz's WW is so modern and original. I go for comic runs that take new risky (but quality) spins on old characters. This is the level of originality that I envisioned the entire new line of DC to take - and outside of certain spots thats not the case.

Everytime a new god shows up its just exciting stuff trying to figure out who is who - looking up some old mythology references and comparing origins. The designs and takes on Apollo, Ares, and especially Hades are just too rad. Actually seeing the preview cover of the dude with melted candles on his head is the first thing that caught my attention to the book (which I now know is Hades of course) - that and I have been reading some older Azzarello stuff at the time.

The darker tone and high originality of it all has me hook, line and sinker. I love it. All that said I wont likely buy another WW book once Azz finishes his story.

[Dr. Hurt]

If we go that road (aka the "let's not take JL into account"), then for Superman you have Action, where he does cool stunts but is clearly depowered compared to the usual, and Superman, where we haven't seen any impressive stuff since 8 issues. It's a shared universe, y'know, if Wonder Woman can do something in JL, then she can do it in WW, even if Azzarelo doesn't show it. It's just that the love guns are more powerful than Darkseid Omega beams (or have some particularity that allows them to pass the Bracelets).
And it wouldn't be the first time. To go back to the Circle, she's getting her butt kicked by 3 non powered Amazons. That's pretty "lame" if you aske me. Yet, it was a good arc.

Wonder Woman is given a lift by GL in one issue (but superman isnt) and then she can fly in the next.
In that same issue Aquaman is also flying.

Excuse me if i consider JL barely above toilet paper with pictures.

[Wulfmir]

Where is that goalpost again?

[Gaelforce]

Have you been reading any Superman books of the new 52? Because i have and i dont remember any huge displays of power. And yet people still think he's Superman strong and powerful.

But for WW it's nag-nag-nag-whine "she's not powerful you guys!"
Did she do any huge feats of strength in the Circle? Were you guys whining back then? I bet not.

I think my main problem that gives me this impression is more in JLA since we don't have any scale to compare it to here in her own book.

Over in JLA she's on the same level of ability as freakin' Aquaman <sigh>

[Wulfmir]

Wonder Woman is given a lift by GL in one issue (but superman isnt) and then she can fly in the next.
In that same issue Aquaman is also flying.

Excuse me if i consider JL barely above toilet paper with pictures.

Now I know Johns got to you.

[Dr. Hurt]

But i have to say that i'd like some action too. It's too bad that nowadays issues are so short so you cant spend too many pages on it.
I also realise that Azz is setting up this new world, all these new characters, the main plot, etc.

But yeah, some action is needed at this point. Dispatching cannon fodder is nice and all, but i'd like an earth shattering scene. Doesnt Hades have a champion to send against WW?

[Wulfmir]

I think my main problem that gives me this impression is more in JLA since we don't have any scale to compare it to here in her own book.

Over in JLA she's on the same level of ability as freakin' Aquaman <sigh>

I don't get that impression.

[Dr. Hurt]

I think my main problem that gives me this impression is more in JLA since we don't have any scale to compare it to here in her own book.

Over in JLA she's on the same level of ability as freakin' Aquaman <sigh>

You mean that Aquaman is supposed to be low tier in terms of power? I thought we got over that. He's barely under Superman in durability and strength and i think they increase exponentially at big depths because of the water pressure. In his own book he broke a massive chunk of rock from an underwater mounten and burried those monsters with it. WITH HIS BARE HANDS.

[Wulfmir]

But i have to say that i'd like some action too. It's too bad that nowadays issues are so short so you cant spend too many pages on it.
I also realise that Azz is setting up this new world, all these new characters, the main plot, etc.

But yeah, some action is needed at this point. Dispatching cannon fodder is nice and all, but i'd like an earth shattering scene. Doesnt Hades have a champion to send against WW?

In all honesty I don't think there'll be that scene, frankly it'll be out of nowhere with the tone of the book.

[Dr. Hurt]

In all honesty I don't think there'll be that scene, frankly it'll be out of nowhere with the tone of the book.

No, we wont get that scene because WW is in love with him, so she'll have to escape from that first. But i think that there will be more action later on. We already have had action, so how is it out of tone?

[Wulfmir]

You mean that Aquaman is supposed to be low tier in terms of power? I thought we got over that. He's barely under Superman in durability and strength and i think they increase exponentially at big depths because of the water pressure. In his own book he broke a massive chunk of rock from an underwater mounten and burried those monsters with it. WITH HIS BARE HANDS.

It's not about power levels, Johns just wrote them so that one character won't outshine the others (except for Batman )

[Wulfmir]

No, we wont get that scene because WW is in love with him, so she'll have to escape from that first. But i think that there will be more action later on. We already have had action, so how is it out of tone?

What I mean is I don't expect action like a full blown slugfest with double page spreads and all.

[slvn]

I think my main problem that gives me this impression is more in JLA since we don't have any scale to compare it to here in her own book.

Over in JLA she's on the same level of ability as freakin' Aquaman <sigh>

I don't know--Wonder Woman was able to take out one of Darkseids eyes without help from Flash, which seems like a big difference. And Aquaman doesn't do anything comparable to blocking an Omega beam.