New Mutants 41 Review spoilers

**cookepuss** · 04-18-2012, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by baltiroo

It's doubly weird given how she dislikes Cable so much, but isn't opposed to swapping spit with Nate Grey.

Not really weird. It's probably more telling than anything else. It's like how most people rebel against their parents, but end up marrying people with very similar qualities. Maybe she also sees something in the younger man that has been buried within his older, more grizzled counterpart. Nate's not so cuddly, but he's certainly not as jaded or battle hardened as Cable yet. Only a few people have ever really gotten to Cable's chewy center, so to speak.

Besides, sexual attraction is just sexual attraction. Nobody ever said that it's a relationship. The gal's not a nun, right? Pretty sure that the X-Men don't take a vow of celibacy. Just because most of the X-Men aren't getting any action doesn't mean that Dani can't.

And poor Sam. This is his second time that being in a long distance relationship has soured.

Yeah, but doesn't that say more about Sam? Instead of leaning on Dani when it came to his PTSD, he turned tail and ran. Doug is way more mentally f***ed than Sam and even he stuck with the team and sought help. In the end, the short lived Samni pairing probably isn't that significant. Fans are probably wishing and hoping desperately that all those years of competing for leadership was nothing more than sexual tension. I'm not so sure.

Still don't like Doug at all

He's improving. Doug was always a dork. After he died and came back during Necrosha, he briefly became an unlikely bad-ass. Ever since, writers have been struggling to get him back into character, opting instead to saddle him with meaningless techno babble. The Paradise Island arc looks to have been a turning point for him. He's not back to normal just yet, but he's getting there. He's a dork again, but he's currently more Sheldon from Big Bang Theory than David from WarGames.

Berto isn't acting like he has any swagger.

Maybe it's just me, but I think that everybody gets to a point where they wonder where their mojo has gone or if they've slowed down a bit. The New Mutants aren't kids anymore. Bobby isn't 13 like he was in the GN. He's an adult in his very early 20s. You have to think that he's maybe wondering if something is wrong with him since Amara's not responding. Has he lost a step? Is he doing something wrong? Did a sudden change of cologne make him repugnant? Bobby's probably just going through one of those moments of self-doubt. It's all a part of growing up. You never really grow out of that sort of self-examination. You just learn to better handle it. Bobby will be fine.

Still hoping for some better stories - although I do really like the done-in-one stories thus far.

I think that it's DnA more than the book itself. Ironically, for guys who have done these big cosmic stories, they seem to have a little trouble getting a handle on the team dynamic for this X-team. They're great with those smaller intimate moments, but it gets away from them a bit when things get bigger. Not a lot, but to the point of the tail sometimes wagging the dog. I also don't think that they have the best handle on the New Mutants continuity. They miss some of the finer points every now and then. Zeb Wells was much better at that, having crafted much richer stories from that lore.

What I WILL give them credit for is for making Warlock more recognizable and true to type. It's not as simple as adding "self this" and "self friend that" to his dialog. Like Doug, he's getting closer to what fans recognize. He's still not nearly as cartoony as I'd prefer, but it's a step.

**worstblogever** · 04-18-2012, 03:30 PM

Something cracks me up about the idea that Roberto couldn't get laid in a monkey whorehouse with a fistful of bananas.

Come to think of it, he didn't get any action while he was at the Hellfire Club, did he?

**cookepuss** · 04-18-2012, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by juan678

nate would be better in AOA; Helping your Mother vs. Stepfather and Father (Cyclops AoA)

I'm a little lost at this point. Is this the true AoA or some variant? That universe has been mangled so many times. First it was nuked and then it wasn't. Then it's years later. It's a trainwreck of a timeline at this point.

**cookepuss** · 04-18-2012, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by worstblogever

Come to think of it, he didn't get any action while he was at the Hellfire Club, did he?

Probably not since, by the time he joined, the club was more about its own self-serving agenda than decadence. That aspect pretty much got stripped away from the club after the 80s.

**GambitXRemy** · 04-18-2012, 03:51 PM

I really enjoyed most of this run I will admit the blink metal band arc was just bad..... but I've liked everything else. They rescued nate was cool. Fear itself arc had great art, the last arc was okay but nothing amazing with birdbrian. The one shot are fuc*ing amazing tho, and I've also liked hopes and nates reactions towards eachother

**Kymeric** · 04-18-2012, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by juan678

nate would be better in AOA; Helping your Mother vs. Stepfather and Father (Cyclops AoA)

Im pretty sure thats endgame for the character once he gets his powers back and his purpose in life sorted out. That takes the character full circle. Even with unlimited god like power itd still be a crapload of work to clean up the aoa. So thats hardly the end.

Remember he thinks the AoA is still gone, its only bishops action with the crystal + the phoenixs rebirth + the Exiles screwing with the structure of multiple realities structures

**cookepuss** · 04-18-2012, 04:09 PM

DnA have a hard time capitalizing on solid ideas.

1. "Let's revisit Paradise Island and Bird Brain." - Nice idea, but they really don't do much with Bird Brain and wrap up the Paradise Island arc in a very hasty deus ex machina sort of way.
2. "Let's make them fight an evil heavy metal band." - Nice idea, but couldn't they give these bad guys some personalities? Superhero books suffer most when the enemies are boring or the heroes are free of inner conflict. That heavy metal band was so bland and generic that it should've been and could've been a much better one issue story.
3. "Let's make Doug the master of ALL languages, not just spoken" - Nice idea, but shouldn't that make him more adept of a fighter, especially since Wells laid the foundation for that? Shouldn't it make him LESS awkward and dorky since he can read everybody's signals?
4. "Hell puppy!" Did Warlock eat him or something? - Did he get forgotten like Franklin Richards' teleporting dog?
5. "The curious, snoopy neighbor across the street" - We're waiting. What's up with that dude?
6. "The New Mutants are Cyclops' cleanup team" - Okay. You recovered Nate and Blink. Is Cyclops that tidy that he doesn't make that many messes that need cleaning up?

Good ideas. Minimal followup. It's amazing to me that they're actually going through the Amara/Mephisto story. THAT should be interesting, unless they somehow let it fizzle. (Although I can't see how dating the devil will result in anything but a very dramatic breakup.)

I'd like to see them do a couple of things with this book now that Nate and Blink are there. Threnody. I'm pretty sure that she's out there somewhere. Bringing her back in to complicate Nate's life and relationship with Dani could be interesting. Madelyne Pryor (Red Queen). With Nate on the team, the story practically writes itself. Could be epic. Blink VS Blink! Another good pairing if they can ever get the Exiles' Clarice off her butt and back into continuity. Plus, whose side would Nate chose? Does he go with friend and teammate Blink or his AoA compatriot Blink?

**Pixie_Solanas** · 04-18-2012, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by Come To Deathstrike

This book is 96% horrible. So far, this issue & the one with Mephistopheles have been good.

Everything else has been ATROCIUS

This book needs atrocitus and his kitty to come in and rip some faces off.

**GambitXRemy** · 04-18-2012, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by cookepuss

DnA have a hard time capitalizing on solid ideas.

1. "Let's revisit Paradise Island and Bird Brain." - Nice idea, but they really don't do much with Bird Brain and wrap up the Paradise Island arc in a very hasty deus ex machina sort of way.
2. "Let's make them fight an evil heavy metal band." - Nice idea, but couldn't they give these bad guys some personalities? Superhero books suffer most when the enemies are boring or the heroes are free of inner conflict. That heavy metal band was so bland and generic that it should've been and could've been a much better one issue story.
3. "Let's make Doug the master of ALL languages, not just spoken" - Nice idea, but shouldn't that make him more adept of a fighter, especially since Wells laid the foundation for that? Shouldn't it make him LESS awkward and dorky since he can read everybody's signals?
4. "Hell puppy!" Did Warlock eat him or something? - Did he get forgotten like Franklin Richards' teleporting dog?
5. "The curious, snoopy neighbor across the street" - We're waiting. What's up with that dude?
6. "The New Mutants are Cyclops' cleanup team" - Okay. You recovered Nate and Blink. Is Cyclops that tidy that he doesn't make that many messes that need cleaning up?

Good ideas. Minimal followup. It's amazing to me that they're actually going through the Amara/Mephisto story. THAT should be interesting, unless they somehow let it fizzle. (Although I can't see how dating the devil will result in anything but a very dramatic breakup.)

I'd like to see them do a couple of things with this book now that Nate and Blink are there. Threnody. I'm pretty sure that she's out there somewhere. Bringing her back in to complicate Nate's life and relationship with Dani could be interesting. Madelyne Pryor (Red Queen). With Nate on the team, the story practically writes itself. Could be epic. Blink VS Blink! Another good pairing if they can ever get the Exiles' Clarice off her butt and back into continuity. Plus, whose side would Nate chose? Does he go with friend and teammate Blink or his AoA compatriot Blink?

Hellhound is still around and the snoopy guy arcoss the street is still around
Zeb well only used doug being a total badass in the necrosha arc.
As missions go they been pretty busy find nate, find blink, fear itself, dougs arc was only okay they really couldn't stick the landing to it but they've gone on missions

**The Lucky One** · 04-18-2012, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by Hi-Fi

I was mainly joking with Drew.

Exactly. Hi and I like to joke around, but he knows as well as I do that when you're getting your underage drink on and some tart from New Jersey is playing you, sometimes you just gotta smack that ho. Just like I understand that when this Air Force tramp be thinkin' she all that, sometimes you have to put that bitch in a coma and steal her brain.

And we both understand that sometimes you have to shoot a girl in the leg and let her bleed out, or punch a girl in the face. But only if you're literally the last man on Earth.

Just kidding, violence against women is never funny. Except in completely fictional universes.

-D

**cookepuss** · 04-18-2012, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by GambitXRemy

Hellhound is still around and the snoopy guy arcoss the street is still around

Maybe he's dog sitting.

Zeb well only used doug being a total badass in the necrosha arc.

True, but it made more an interesting character. I also find it hard to believe that he can no longer do that stuff now that he's broken free from Selene. Maybe he's discovered that the language physical violence just isn't interesting to him anymore. I'd buy that excuse. But to see other people running cover for him and making him physically incapable in battle seems a little hard to swallow. The idea is for him to grow, not to regress.

As missions go they been pretty busy find nate, find blink, fear itself, dougs arc was only okay they really couldn't stick the landing to it but they've gone on missions

Sure, but do they have a mission statement? They're basically supposed to be the less brutal version of X-Force, making them (naturally) X-Force G1. The few side trips they've taken have thrown them off course, making it seem like Cyclops doesn't really leave any loose ends. It also makes it seem as if Cyclops was just giving them busy work to keep them out of his hair.

**cookepuss** · 04-18-2012, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by The Lucky One

Just kidding, violence against women is never funny.

You've clearly never met some of the women in my life. Just kidding. (mostly)

**GambitXRemy** · 04-18-2012, 06:12 PM

I like the new mutants living of utopia and doing there own thing there still under cyclops but I still like them just chillin and talking and having beers and trying to get jobs and finding puppies and dating the devil