Wonder Woman #8 review

[SteveGus]

How is she being transformed into Lady Death? Where do you see it? Nowhere! It's just your idea you're so focused about that just because she's trapped in Hades, they're gonna turn it into her Homebase, even thought we know damn sure that she escapes from it by issue 10 and she's in Olympus kicking Apollo's butt by 11!
I'm sorry, I wouldn't argue with you this much if your points where based on something, yet you keep repeating over and over and over again how they're turning her into a merciless villain when in the same damn issue she gives a speech about the importance of life and how fighting for it is worth it!

One, because Azzarello is basing this on mythology. Obviously some kind of deal will be cut before she gets out of Hades. One that will cost her even more than she's already lost, because I've already learned to expect that from this run. The myth of Persephone is an obvious choice for him, I think. This character will end up with some kind of link with Hades. She may in fact actually marry him. In the myth of Persephone, she was tricked into being forced to become Hades's bride, until the other gods intervened on behalf of Demeter.

Two, because I do not think it's unreasonable at this point to assume that Azzarello intends to pervert almost every aspect of her original origin and character, and to destroy what he cannot pervert. He's already turned the Amazons into barbarian sex pirates. Turning "Wonder Woman" into a character incapable of love and a sex-based killing machine strikes me as a logical next step, completely consistent with what he's done so far. It will be especially intriguing if she remembers her compassion but seldom is able to act on it.

I suspect that a character like this would appeal to the audience that followed Azzarello here. He intends to ruin Wonder Woman for all time, or at least until the next reboot, and to stamp his boot so hard across her face that the scar will be visible for a long time. This isn't just a story; it's her new origin in nuDC, or supposed to be.

[majormcmeat]

Exactly! But it isn't just those two, in this heavenly battle, where are the ladies in general? Hera and Strife are the only ones who show any interest here? No Athena? No Aphrodite? No Artemis? Anyone? Um, what's going on?

eta:
Also, I couldn't help but laugh. With the depiction of the Amazons in #7, part of the 'great defense' (my term for the PR zealots ) was 'but it fits better with much of the mythology.' Here, when there's no mention of Persephone, the 'great defense' is 'but, he isn't sticking to mythology'? ;)

It's almost like the story hasn't concluded yet.

Turning "Wonder Woman" into a character incapable of love and a sex-based killing machine strikes me as a logical next step, completely consistent with what he's done so far.

Really? That would be consistent for a character already attacked a god whose help she needed because she thought he was a slaver? That would be consistent for a character who fought through Hell to save her friend, whom she openly admits to loving?
That would be consistent? Really?

[Dr. Hurt]

Possibly Hades is only set on getting what he asked for; a Queen. Currently Diana is actually Queen of the Amazons, because if Hippolyta isn't dead, she is not in a position to do anything, and the other Amazons did speculate what would have happened if Strife had caused Hippolyta's death (as in Diana becoming their ruler). And Diana did rule out the possibility of getting Hera for him.

As for Persephone, first option is that she's not his bride. Second option is building on what Perez did; Hecate was Hades' first wife, but was eventually neglected because of Persephone, spurring her to ultimately bond with Circe. So perhaps Persophone is lonely somewhere in the underworld.
Demeter...not sure what she has to do with any of this? Thanatos is the embodiment of death in Greek mythology, Hades' comes into the picture after that.

Demeter is Persephone's mother. She didnt like anyone as her daughter's husband and that's why Zeus told Hades to abduct her. Another version says that Hades and Persephone were already in love (so no abduction) and Zeus told him that Demeter wouldnt like him and it would be best if they eloped.

In any case, Persephone ends up in Hades and Demeter is so sad that the whole world is hit by a massive drought (Demeter is the goddess of fertility). So the other gods plead Hades to let Persephone go so that the drought can end and people wont suffer. But Persephone had eaten from the fruits of the Underworld so she cant leave it forever. So a deal is struck, she'd spend half the year topside and half the year in the underworld.

It's a really cool myth that explains how the greeks saw the seasons of the year as moodswings of Demeter.

[ken1989]

for all the people who actually enjoy this run and for the rage of the haters, a new interview of Azzarrello on WW from Newsrama

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/bria...der-woman.html

Can't wait

[WhitOro]

One, because Azzarello is basing this on mythology. Obviously some kind of deal will be cut before she gets out of Hades. One that will cost her even more than she's already lost, because I've already learned to expect that from this run. The myth of Persephone is an obvious choice for him, I think. This character will end up with some kind of link with Hades. She may in fact actually marry him. In the myth of Persephone, she was tricked into being forced to become Hades's bride, until the other gods intervened on behalf of Demeter.

Like we saw, Azzarello isn't taking the myths literally. He's taking bits and pieces, and what happens in the myths won't come to the book. If there's a matrimony, something that they won't allow him to do, because there's a child involved and DC will never publish a book with infant wedding, not in the USA at least.

Two, because I do not think it's unreasonable at this point to assume that Azzarello intends to pervert almost every aspect of her original origin and character, and to destroy what he cannot pervert. He's already turned the Amazons into barbarian sex pirates. Turning "Wonder Woman" into a character incapable of love and a sex-based killing machine strikes me as a logical next step, completely consistent with what he's done so far. It will be especially intriguing if she remembers her compassion but seldom is able to act on it. I suspect that a character like this would appeal to the audience that followed Azzarello here. He intends to ruin Wonder Woman for all time, or at least until the next reboot, and to stamp his boot so hard across her face that the scar will be visible for a long time.

It doesn't matter how many words you use it to say it, I already told you, I won't accept "Azzarello is an asshat" as a reason.

"Logical next step" give me a break.

[Imraith Nimphais]

Oh. My. Goddess!!!

I loveloveLOVED this issue.

Hades gets his "queen" after all. LOL
As, with Hippolyta gathering moss on Paradise Island, Diana is now technically Queen of the Amazons.

[Dr. Hurt]

Diana wont marry Hades but it would be great if they made up and teamed up. It would be like Diana having her own Damian or Klarion. I love Hades. He is a badass kid that likes puns!

[Dr. Hurt]

for all the people who actually enjoy this run and for the rage of the haters, a new interview of Azzarrello on WW from Newsrama

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/bria...der-woman.html

Can't wait

Thanks for that!

I cant wait for the next issues!

[Mr. Holmes]

Yeah Hades has always been my favorite Greek god. It's ironic that contrary to how pop culture portrays him as a devil-figure, he's the least asshole out of all of them.

[majormcmeat]

for all the people who actually enjoy this run and for the rage of the haters, a new interview of Azzarrello on WW from Newsrama

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/bria...der-woman.html

Can't wait

Stop it, Brian, I can't handle the anticipation!

[Imraith Nimphais]

I don't care what people say, this was not only the best issue of this volume of Wonder Woman, it was the best damn Wonder Woman issue I have ever read.

I cannot stress enough how amazing this was. Utter perfection. So many nuances, I kept picking up on more details every time I read it. I'm pretty sure that Hephaestus knew what would happen when he gave Wonder Woman Eros' guns. He has a major mad-on for the whole pantheon.

...in effect making him "the betrayer"? hmmm...or at least one of them.

[sberg1]

Stop it, Brian, I can't handle the anticipation!

Seriously! This man knows how to give a good interview. I cannot wait to see more of the Gods. I love that he's acknowledged Strife's instant popularity, even if it wasn't necessarily intended.

[majormcmeat]

Seriously! This man knows how to give a good interview. I cannot wait to see more of the Gods. I love that he's acknowledged Strife's instant popularity, even if it wasn't necessarily intended.

More god designs! I must see them.

[Mr. Holmes]

So it looks like he's hinting that there is indeed more to the story than what Heph said.

[Auguste Dupin]

Yeah Hades has always been my favorite Greek god. It's ironic that contrary to how pop culture portrays him as a devil-figure, he's the least asshole out of all of them.

He's still kind of an ass, though. Just a calculating one. Or maybe it's just me.
But if I had to choose a "less asshole", I would probably pick Hermes (who's helped team WW, although he might be a traitor), Eros (appart from that incident with the gay guy, seems like a nice fella to me), or Hephaesteus (saver of babies for millenias). Hades is still a bad guy in my book.