Will Storm be free from Fox if Marvel declares her x-men resignation?

[KurtW95]

Once an X-Man, always an X-Man.

[protonik]

Marvel also sold the rights to X-Men and Spider-man to help get out of bankruptcy and shot themselves in the foot on those deals. They get barely any residuals which is why when Disney bought them there was so much scampering to get the rights to Spider-man cartoons and Sony got additional time to make their next Spider-man movie.

[RLAAMJR.]

Wanda and Pietro have not yet appeared on screen. From what Feige says, Fox haven't exclusively optioned the rights to those specific characters, but they do fall within both camps, so at present either company could use them in a film. However, when one of them does, their rights will, most likely, then be exclusively held by the production company that uses them, and if that's Marvel Studios then they will not have a connection to Magneto.

I may understand on Scarlet Witch'es status but for Quicksilver who has been a member of the brotherhood of evil mutants, also became a member of x-force and even showed up a lot of times in x-men evolution, why wouldn't Fox own him completely?

[Lady_Alternate]

I may understand on Scarlet Witch'es status but for Quicksilver who has been a member of the brotherhood of evil mutants, also became a member of x-force and even showed up a lot of times in x-men evolution, why wouldn't Fox own him completely?

Because he simply hasn't been optioned as yet, and Marvel Studios could easily make a claim to him being a part of the properties they own and are producing, so long as Fox do not use him first. However, I think it unlikely that Fox would use them outside of a Magneto Origins pic, which is now surplus to requirements, thanks to First Class.

From Feige's comments, it seems that Fox's option on X-properties is very broad but not complete, and they seem to have a good working relationship with Marvel Studios (whom they co-produce with) that they wouldn't risk.

[RLAAMJR.]

Because he simply hasn't been optioned as yet, and Marvel Studios could easily make a claim to him being a part of the properties they own and are producing, so long as Fox do not use him first. However, I think it unlikely that Fox would use them outside of a Magneto Origins pic, which is now surplus to requirements, thanks to First Class.

From Feige's comments, it seems that Fox's option on X-properties is very broad but not complete, and they seem to have a good working relationship with Marvel Studios (whom they co-produce with) that they wouldn't risk.

I see. How about the new characters who joined the x-men after the contract?


I hope Fox could show us the 4 -page characters list

[Lady_Alternate]

I see. How about the new characters who joined the x-men after the contract?

Already mentioned that previously, with this:

That's the interesting bit - for instance, Darwin and Angel Salvadore were both introduced to the books after the first film (and therefore after any initial rights deal) but appeared in First Class. Some people take this as proof that Fox have carte blanche on ANY X-property and Marvel made a boo-boo on their contract, while others (such as myself) think that Fox took a pool of initial characters and have the right to apply for options on any subsequent X-property.

I did read an interesting take on why X-23 was moved to only appearing in an Avengers book being due to film rights potential, which made a lot of sense if the second of the above options is correct.

To answer your second point:

I hope Fox could show us the 4 -page characters list

I don't think one exists. It's a page that says "any X-property" and if they've not already used the character, then they have a quick discussion with Marvel Studios. Basically, any X-property could be used by Fox, but they're less likely to use crossover characters (as the intellectual property brand doesn't solely focus on their product) and unlikely to use any that Marvel Studios have expressed a close interest in.

On the flip side, the same is true for Marvel studios; they're much less likely to use crossover characters for fear of diminishing the brand, so if any are used, then expect a major character overhaul for the Marvel Cinematic Universe.**

The two studios have quite a close working relationship, so any character choice is likely to be amicable.

**EDIT - for example, were Wanda and Pietro to be used in the MCU, then while they man remain brother and sister it's likely their parentage wouldn't be mentioned at all, or explicitly reworked, and their powers will likely derive from SCIENCE! rather than mutation. Possibly some super-soldier program cast-offs, to tie them in to the other properties, as we know via other movies that the MCU US Government has been actively pursuing super-solder programs.

[RLAAMJR.]

Already mentioned that previously, with this:




To answer your second point:



I don't think one exists. It's a page that says "any X-property" and if they've not already used the character, then they have a quick discussion with Marvel Studios. Basically, any X-property could be used by Fox, but they're less likely to use crossover characters (as the intellectual property brand doesn't solely focus on their product) and unlikely to use any that Marvel Studios have expressed a close interest in.

On the flip side, the same is true for Marvel studios; they're much less likely to use crossover characters for fear of diminishing the brand, so if any are used, then expect a major character overhaul for the Marvel Cinematic Universe.**

The two studios have quite a close working relationship, so any character choice is likely to be amicable.

**EDIT - for example, were Wanda and Pietro to be used in the MCU, then while they man remain brother and sister it's likely their parentage wouldn't be mentioned at all, or explicitly reworked, and their powers will likely derive from SCIENCE! rather than mutation. Possibly some super-soldier program cast-offs, to tie them in to the other properties, as we know via other movies that the MCU US Government has been actively pursuing super-solder programs.

Thanks a lot for answering my questions. : )

[Darthfury78]

Marvel also sold the rights to X-Men and Spider-man to help get out of bankruptcy and shot themselves in the foot on those deals. They get barely any residuals which is why when Disney bought them there was so much scampering to get the rights to Spider-man cartoons and Sony got additional time to make their next Spider-man movie.

Makes me upset that Sony gave the TV rights to Spider-Man back to Marvel because they could have kept making new episodes for Spectacular Spider-Man until they got their 65-episode goal. But I feel that Sony could have produced the 65-episode set as Toei does with One Piece by producing 52-episodes a season on a weekly basis instead of the mundane 13-episodes a season.