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    I'd rather just have Superboy Prime be the Clark from Secret Identity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacred Knight View Post
    Superboy-Prime was the analogue of the worst-of-the-worst in terms of the pessimistic fanboy.

    So I'm sure he absolutely loathes every aspect of it.
    I felt more like he was a character who saw off the page. When he screamed 'You're ruining me!' he was yelling at Geoff Johns ... When he was back on Earth Prime he blamed the people within his written universe, no longer looking off page because he felt he was back in 'reality'. I kinda liked the character as a concept and felt he was poorly used in the end. Happy with the New 52? They're darker than they were; he would not be happy with this...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Holmes View Post
    I'd rather just have Superboy Prime be the Clark from Secret Identity.
    That Superboy's story is done, however. But I thought the original idea behind Secret Identity was cool--that of a young Clark Kent on a world where Superman is fictional and told in more or less real-time.

    I think a revised version of the Superboy-Prime origin (teleported to Earth, no Green K, ect) in the modern world but with all the same supporting characters would be cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFitzH2O View Post
    I felt more like he was a character who saw off the page. When he screamed 'You're ruining me!' he was yelling at Geoff Johns ... When he was back on Earth Prime he blamed the people within his written universe, no longer looking off page because he felt he was back in 'reality'. I kinda liked the character as a concept and felt he was poorly used in the end. Happy with the New 52? They're darker than they were; he would not be happy with this...
    Yeah, the concept had a lot of potential but Prime was written very badly at times. I think when they started having him kill just for the fun of it they made him a far less interesting and one-note character. One of the reasons why I liked his story in Adventure Comics is because Prime changed over the course of the story (another reason why that awful Titans story made no sense) and was different at the end.

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    The world that Superboy Prime loved was the Pre-COIE DC Multiverse. It's the world he wanted back, but never quite got.

    The New 52 DCU would alienate him even more than the Post-COIE DCU did.

    I do wonder what his fate is in the New 52. Did Pandora's manipulations wipe him out of existence as well? So far, he's been remarkably resistant to being written out of the timeline.

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    As uperboy prime loves it! Because it effectivley killed all the Titans he hated and battled, rebirthkng them into the mess they are today. It effdd ip thers historh and there lives. Something he never did. So ya i belive he would be pleassd.

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    I hope hope SBP makes it into the New 52 and tears ass throughout the cosmos, chokes out Pandora and gets back to retconning the real way: Superboy punches. :)

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    So would his past crimes be remembered? The people he killed have been reborn in one way or another.
    Since Superboy-Prime is supposed to live on our real earth, then I think nothing has happened to him.
    When DC started this new Universe and all others ours was the only one not touched.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ntikrst View Post
    You can't see the forest for the trees, GJ turned Superboy-Prime into Kid Marvelman. Fanboy analogies were tacked on after so GJ could cover his tracks.
    You need to read my post a little more carefully: initially he was nothing like that. Remember, GJ didn't create him, he 'merely' abused him. My first sentence was a joke about the difference between KMM and SBP, the rest of my post pretty much agreed with your analysis...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotSuper View Post
    His history wasn't really changed
    And yet it was.

    How he got to Earth, for example, was changed.

    The effect of a red sun was changed - however, many of us 'accepted' it on basis that the previous encounter was tech-generated whereas Rao was, well, Rao.

    Kind of disappointing they never had the two meet on Earth-Prime. Prime would be pretty upset his life was screwed over in favor of facilitating a crossover (I know I would be).
    He met Didio, didn't he? - GJ was probably one of the characters running away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adkal View Post
    How he got to Earth, for example, was changed.
    Nope. You're thinking of that Secret Files entry from Infinite Crisis, but that was just a mistake (for instance, it also said Prime's ship landed in Smallville where he was raised by the Kents--contradicted by actual appearances of his non-farmer, New England parents). Prime's history was confirmed to be the same within the Superman-Prime Special during the Sinestro Corps War, when he had an extended flashback about his life--synching up perfectly with his original story. He was teleported to Earth like in his original origin story, he was never shown in a ship coming to Earth or anything on panel. There's no evidence ANYTHING in his history was changed.

    The effect of a red sun was changed - however, many of us 'accepted' it on basis that the previous encounter was tech-generated whereas Rao was, well, Rao.
    Indeed. I'm actually the one who added that fact to his Wikipedia page--the artificial sunlight part. My first time reading about Prime was well before Infinite Crisis and I'm quite well-versed in the character.

    Not to mention we never knew much about how Prime's powers worked since his appearances prior to IC were so brief. That leaves writers plenty of room to define the nature of his abilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adkal View Post
    He met Didio, didn't he? - GJ was probably one of the characters running away.
    Didio fled from him, but there was no Geoff.

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    In regards to Prime's status: Logically, he would've got rebooted just like everyone else. Power Girl got rebooted too, after all, and she was just as much an anomaly as Prime. (Ditto Kal-L.)

    I'd imagine he's just a normal kid on Earth-Prime now, living the life he would have led had the Crisis not happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brik-el View Post
    So would his past crimes be remembered? The people he killed have been reborn in one way or another.
    Since Superboy-Prime is supposed to live on our real earth, then I think nothing has happened to him.
    When DC started this new Universe and all others ours was the only one not touched.
    He would be touched as Prime only became Superboy due to the Crisis on Infinite Earths, which didn't happen. It stands to reason that he should just be a normal kid who never became a super-hero or a super-villain. Our world was rebooted too, we just don't realize it. ;)

    Remember, Earth-Prime was erased from history for decades before it was recreated. But from our perception nothing ever changed.

    Besides, Prime was fighting Black Lanterns in New York City and flying into skyscrapers. If history WASN'T rebooted here then why isn't our world aware of super-heroes? Don't tell me such an event wouldn't be all other the news and on YouTube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotSuper View Post
    Yes.

    Um. doesn't it turn out that she has a black power ring in this image, hidden under her sling?

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