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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider-Dragon View Post
    Ummmm...I believe you are mistaken. I believe the supposed Maddie that X-Man supposely resurrected was actually an evil Jean Grey from a parallel universe, and the Red Queen that died trying to get Jean Grey's body in the Sisterhood story was her. The real Maddie hasn't been resurrected...yet.
    Really? I don't think so. Was Nate able to bring someone from an alternate universe? If he had this power then he'd be like Franklin Richards.

    And she wasn't evil in the beginning, at least on the pages of his series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock69 View Post
    112...that was what, 70's? He probably came back 2 issues later right?
    Even sooner than that :) it was 1971 and he "died" in 112 and came back in 113. It would not be worth a mention, except it is so early and such a memorable event. You said you recall Ben Grimm dying, and this is the one that springs to mind. And to be fair, "he's dead" was only Johnny's hot headed opinion, it certainly wasn't mentioned on the cover.

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    Comic book deaths/resurrections always make me laugh.
    Poor comic book characters. I think everyones died at least once by now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tolworthy View Post
    Even sooner than that :) it was 1971 and he "died" in 112 and came back in 113. It would not be worth a mention, except it is so early and such a memorable event. You said you recall Ben Grimm dying, and this is the one that springs to mind. And to be fair, "he's dead" was only Johnny's hot headed opinion, it certainly wasn't mentioned on the cover.
    Oh yeah but if we counted those cases of "is he or isn't he" that list would be huge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OkieDokiLoki View Post
    Comic book deaths/resurrections always make me laugh.
    Poor comic book characters. I think everyones died at least once by now.
    Thats the point I was trying to make on my other thread. I believe all major characters will die in the next 10 years.

    The big question is: would Marvel and DC have the balls to kill those characters again? Like Captain America or Superman?

    Or will we eventually see an end to the whole "death/resurrection" thing?

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    Iron Man died at the end of the Crossing, he sacrificed himself because of the three women he murdered while under the influence of Kang/Immortus. There was an alternate universe teen Tony who took his place but after Heroes Reborn Franklin Richards brought back the original Tony with all his memories.
    Minor character here but Ariel was blown up by a missile strike on the car she was in in X men Legacy #235. She returned in Legacy #259 after it was revealed she was stuck in limbo after teleporting through the car door but sort of got blew up at the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock69 View Post
    Thats the point I was trying to make on my other thread. I believe all major characters will die in the next 10 years.

    The big question is: would Marvel and DC have the balls to kill those characters again? Like Captain America or Superman?

    Or will we eventually see an end to the whole "death/resurrection" thing?
    I dunno.
    I actually rather see these characters grow old and retire. That's even less likely to happen. XD;
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    Good idea for a thread.

    A few others that come to mind are from the "supporting character" set. Those folks often stay dead awhile:

    Sharon Carter (sacrificed herself on a S.H.I.E.L.D. mission in the 1970s and returned during Waid's run in the mid-1990s when it was revealed that she faked her own death)

    Aunt May (died in hosptial and came back a year or so later after it was revealed she never died but was held hostage)

    Mary Jane Watson (died in a plane crash, but like Aunt May was really held hostage)

    Betty Ross (dead for a decade before being resurrected)

    Happy Hogan died during Civil War, is he back yet?

    Then there is the other sub-genre of series ending deaths:

    You already got Hawkeye, Ant-man, and The Vision. We could add the famous death by Spider-Woman (Jessica Drew) at the end of her series after a battle with Morgan Le Fay in which her body died while she was in Astral form. She later returned in the Avengers. I forget how.

    And the slightly less famous Iron Fist death at the end of Power Man and Iron Fist. He died of cancer, but it was later revealed in the pages of Namor that was only a doppleganger.

    Another sub-genre of reversible deaths is the "pointless death." The Alpha Flights, which you noted, fit in that category. You rightly ignored onslaught because we knew the folks weren't really dead, and ignored the infinity gauntlet deaths because they were reversed in the same story. But we could add the New Warriors who have returned since civil war. I know that Namorita returned when Nova found her off in space. I think she was at the "fault." Blackbolt may have been there too, and he certainly came back recently after his death in War of Kings.
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    I know if I were a Marvel writer I would be sorely tempted to revive a character, likely a bit-part character killed off to show how badass the new villain is, like, say, Network, without any explanation whatsoever as a way of mocking unexplained resurrections. Like, the character would be there and be a part of the cast, but every time she showed up another character would point out how little sense it makes for her to be alive. I might end up revealing how it happened if the joke started to get old, though.

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    Sadly the one character that hasn't returned and probably should remain the definitive death in the MU.......

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    Almost everyone on Earth has died. Baron Mordo caused the whole world to go made and the planet got destroyed in Dr. Strange #12. Strange was the sole survivor, but he convinced Eternity to recreate Earth - not undo the destruction, make a copy. And since Strange has died and come back (something he confirms to Rick Jones in Incredible Hulk #399: Rick "People come back from the dead all the time. I mean, I've come back from the dead. I bet you have too!", Strange "Well ... Yes, I have. But I AM a professional."), that means everyone on Earth has died, bar children born since Eternity recreated the planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Almost everyone on Earth has died. Baron Mordo caused the whole world to go made and the planet got destroyed in Dr. Strange #12. Strange was the sole survivor, but he convinced Eternity to recreate Earth - not undo the destruction, make a copy. And since Strange has died and come back (something he confirms to Rick Jones in Incredible Hulk #399: Rick "People come back from the dead all the time. I mean, I've come back from the dead. I bet you have too!", Strange "Well ... Yes, I have. But I AM a professional."), that means everyone on Earth has died, bar children born since Eternity recreated the planet.
    They were recreated, but I'm not sure that counts as resurrecting them, since the story states it's a new world where everything played out the same up as the previous one--until the point of destruction, that is.
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    I think one way to make all of this less ridiculous would be for Marvel to actually come up with an excuse for the multitude of resurrections.

    For instance...Roma could say that the heroes of Earth were chosen by her...or some equivalent cosmic-magic entity. And that, precisely because of that, they are special beings and they don't always follow the same rules as regular people. And that she had a finger on all of these resurrections.

    That could also explain how some characters got their powers in their fist place. It would make a lot more sense than the "random accident" excuse (Ex: Daredevil getting his powers because he was hit by some radioactive liquid).

    Marvel feel free to use this. You don't have to pay me or anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corey W View Post
    Good idea for a thread.

    A few others that come to mind are from the "supporting character" set. Those folks often stay dead awhile:

    Sharon Carter (sacrificed herself on a S.H.I.E.L.D. mission in the 1970s and returned during Waid's run in the mid-1990s when it was revealed that she faked her own death)

    Aunt May (died in hosptial and came back a year or so later after it was revealed she never died but was held hostage)

    Mary Jane Watson (died in a plane crash, but like Aunt May was really held hostage)

    Betty Ross (dead for a decade before being resurrected)

    Happy Hogan died during Civil War, is he back yet?

    Then there is the other sub-genre of series ending deaths:

    You already got Hawkeye, Ant-man, and The Vision. We could add the famous death by Spider-Woman (Jessica Drew) at the end of her series after a battle with Morgan Le Fay in which her body died while she was in Astral form. She later returned in the Avengers. I forget how.

    And the slightly less famous Iron Fist death at the end of Power Man and Iron Fist. He died of cancer, but it was later revealed in the pages of Namor that was only a doppleganger.

    Another sub-genre of reversible deaths is the "pointless death." The Alpha Flights, which you noted, fit in that category. You rightly ignored onslaught because we knew the folks weren't really dead, and ignored the infinity gauntlet deaths because they were reversed in the same story. But we could add the New Warriors who have returned since civil war. I know that Namorita returned when Nova found her off in space. I think she was at the "fault." Blackbolt may have been there too, and he certainly came back recently after his death in War of Kings.
    Those are great additions, I will include them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock69 View Post
    Well THAT death during Crossing doesn't count because it didn't last.

    As for Hawkeye...yup, true, so true...Hawkeye died during Disassembled and came back during House of M.

    Like I said, I knew I'd be forgetting some things.
    It lasted about as long as the Human Torch's death did. You hhave Northstar there and he didn't stay dead long.

    Mister Fantastic and Dr. Doom both died when Doom exploded his armor during a fight in the '90s. Turned out that they were in some kind of dimension or something. I know you have Reed there but not Doom. Colossus died to find a cure for the legacy virus but was brought back...somehow that I still don't understand. Wolverine was killed by Death but it turned out ot be Skrullerine that was killed. Multiple Man died when Haven was trying to cure him from the legacy virus. Not sure how he came back. Magik, Cypher and Warlock have all died but came back as well.

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