Are the Avengers now bigger than the X-Men in pop culture?

[Umbra]

would you like a pillow cushion for your pedestal?

And some tissue. Lol

[Brandon McKinnis]

I really didn't get your analogy. Are you saying the BP appreciation thread is close to having margaritas?

Yea, but we like to wait until after 5pm.

[WaveHeater]

I take it you haven't read much Avengers (or have only read it during Bendis run, which is more or less the same thing).

Let's see: Kang, Ultron, Imortus, Masters of Evil, The Space Phantom, The Zodiac, The Formor, Proctor and the Gatherers, The Collector, The Grand Master, The Scarlet Centurion, Alkhema, The Supreme Inteligence, Nebula, Chiton, the Lethal Legion, Grim Reaper, Pagan, Lord Templar, etc...and those are just counting Villains that were created to be AVENGERS foes, not including those that are intrinsically linked to one of it's members such as the Olympians to Hercules or Loki to Thor, or Red Skull to Cap, or Thanos who, although debuted fighting Iron Man and the Thing, and went on to become a big bad for Captain Marvel, in a saga that guest-stared the Avengers, has faced the Avengers many times and is thought as an Avengers foe, such as many others, like Morgana le Fey, the Kree, Maelstorm and others.
Sure, the X-Men have quite a lot of villains (Magneto, Sabretooth, The Brotherhood of Evil - if you start to dismember those, you'll have to do the same for the various incarnations of the MoE and the LL, and that sort of doubles the Avengers list - The Brood, The Shiar and the Imperial Guard, Mr. Sinister, Apocalypse, the Hellfire Club, etc.. ), but can they really compete? And aren't most of them already X-Men?

By the way, good call on that Dolph Lundgren film, as well as on the others. I had tottaly forgotten about it.

Peace

Loki, Thanos and Ultron are great villains but they arent even on Magneto's doorstep in terms of popularity. Magneto has literally carried the entire movie X-franchise by himself.

And Id take 2nd tier x-villains like Juggernaut, Apocalypse, Sinister over the best Hulk, Cap and IM has to offer.

[Umbra]

Let's not brush a whole group of fans with the same brush just because one or two are being ridiculous. As a BP fan i would assume you'd know better.

As for the question at hand, of course. The amount of money and marketing that has gone into the Avengers franchise over the last 6-5 years is insane. It's not a question of which property is superior because that is, for the most part, totally subjective(i obviously personally think the X-Franchise is vastly superior, always has, always will be. But that's just me) it's about where most of the money is spent, and that has clearly been with The Avengers.

Is it really that hard to approach this with reason, logic and common sense for some of you?

At one point Superman was bigger then batman...this same thing. Right now the Avengers are bigger. Not sure what Fox is going to do, but a reboot might be in order.

[Jake V]

Loki, Thanos and Ultron are great villains but they arent even on Magneto's doorstep in terms of popularity. Magneto has literally carried the entire movie X-franchise by himself.

I'm sorry, what? Explain why the movie he headlined (and Wolverine didn't star in) was the least successful of the 5 films.

[Lord Bravery]

Loki, Thanos and Ultron are great villains but they arent even on Magneto's doorstep in terms of popularity. Magneto has literally carried the entire movie X-franchise by himself.

And Id take 2nd tier x-villains like Juggernaut, Apocalypse, Sinister over the best Hulk, Cap and IM has to offer.

Give it a few years until the next Marvel films roll around and let's talk about Thanos and popularity.

[Lord Bravery]

hey, now. cyclops was barking orders in the first x-men movie. granted, magneto mocked him for it and wolverine ignored him, but there it was.

haha good point. But Cyke just got completely dissed in the movies. He should have had a scene like what Cap did in Avengers.

[Monty_Cristo]

Give it a few years until the next Marvel films roll around and let's talk about Thanos and popularity.

you mean "purple wrinkly chinned hulk?" an earth-based threat will always have the edge. no one cares about aliens; especially non-humanoid looking aliens.

[Monty_Cristo]

I'm sorry, what? Explain why the movie he headlined (and Wolverine didn't star in) was the least successful of the 5 films.

because of the 4 films that tainted their image beforehand. and having to share billing with a blue muppet and a bunch of kids. take out the kids and you have a really effing good movie. Kevin Bacon killed it as well.

[Monty_Cristo]

I really didn't get your analogy. Are you saying the BP appreciation thread is close to having margaritas?

and you have a future foundation insignia as an avatar? false advertisement, much?

[Lord Bravery]

you mean "purple wrinkly chinned hulk?" an earth-based threat will always have the edge. no one cares about aliens; especially non-humanoid looking aliens.

Thanos is humanoid. And he's a bit more than a purple wrinkly chinned Hulk. He's like Dr Doom, Dr Strange and Hulk combined and amped up a few notches.

And let's wait and see. He's a great character with good motivations. Doesn't matter if he's an alien, you ground the character with a more human personality and people will connect to him. That's the Marvel way from it's inception. No matter how outlandish and fantastical, it's always about the more human and relatable side. Plus he can solo the Avengers on his own, audiences love a bad ass.

[WaveHeater]

I'm sorry, what? Explain why the movie he headlined (and Wolverine didn't star in) was the least successful of the 5 films.

Your just making my point for me: A film with NO Wolverine, Jean, Cyclops, Storm, Ian Mckellan....

And Magneto's presence alone was still enough to beat DCs Green Lantern.

The only other VILLAIN who could pull something off like that is probably Joker.

[Monty_Cristo]

No it isn't. The X-Men are a team. The crossover aspect has absolutely nothing to do with it. I'm talking as a standalone film.

You don't need to see the solo movies to see the Avengers working as a team do you?

yes. yes you do. otherwise, you'd just be wondering who all these freaks are.

[Monty_Cristo]

Thanos is humanoid. And he's a bit more than a purple wrinkly chinned Hulk. He's like Dr Doom, Dr Strange and Hulk combined and amped up a few notches.

because you read comic books. to the general public, he's Hulk with a wrinkly face. and i don't think it's smart to compare him to doom. movie-doom was an embarrassment. Strange hasn't appeared on screen either. what you're left with is basically, alien bad guy. and he's about as humanoid as the multi-armed guy from the Mortal Kombat movie.

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[Majinoaw]

It's so cute how you think comic book sales are at all relevant to pop culture. You know barely anyone reads comics, right?

People do see movies though. Lots of people. Enough people to make Avengers the largest opening of all time and make over 600 million in 12 days.

The mark has a good point.

I'm sorry, what? Explain why the movie he headlined (and Wolverine didn't star in) was the least successful of the 5 films.

The X-Men movies were terrible, that's why. I have to agree with you on these points.

yes. yes you do. otherwise, you'd just be wondering who all these freaks are.

Nope, I highly disagree. You're so wrong you couolldn't find right.