Somebody explain to me the decision to put Fraction on Hawkeye?

[CTpitch]

I've even seen an increase of hate for Hickman lately since he got more work.

show me where they're at I'll mudahrize 'em

its how fans are they see and writer get a lot of recognition and they get jealous
happens all the time

[CyberHubbs]

There will soon come a day where negative posters everywhere read a Sabrewulf thread and say to themselves, "Is that how I come off? Screw that."

And they will find something positive to say for once in their lives.

[Jaded Devil]

I like Fraction just fine: loved Iron Fist, loving Defenders (he and Brian K. Vaughn are the only people who’ve ever written a Dr. Strange I could stand). Not a big fan of Thor or Iron Man as characters, so I haven’t read those runs. I even liked Fear Itself, probably because I bought it as a collected edition and read it all at once, vs. with a month in-between. Needless to say, I’m good with Fraction, I’m good with Aja, I’m good with Hawkeye. I’m even good with Hawkeye’s new costume.

The problem I have is making him a street-level type hero. I think Hawkeye works best when he’s the regular guy in anything-but-regular circumstances. I think that’s the reason the two best solo-esque books for him were McCann’s Hawkeye and Mockingbird and the old Mark Gruenwald mini…in both he was just a guy with a bow and trick arrows, but he was up against all kinds of craziness with super-assassins, ghosts, even a band of deadly jugglers. This just makes him seem like he’s going to be fall somewhere between Daredevil and the Punisher. That’s not the type of Hawkeye story I really want to read.

[CTpitch]

There will soon come a day where negative posters everywhere read a Sabrewulf thread and say to themselves, "Is that how I come off? Screw that."

And they will find something positive to say for once in their lives.

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[Talisman]

There will soon come a day where negative posters everywhere read a Sabrewulf thread and say to themselves, "Is that how I come off? Screw that."

And they will find something positive to say for once in their lives.

He has lots of positive things to say about the current DC stuff, but ever since Marvel went to the $3.99 price tag, he's been hellbent on saying every negative thing in the book about them.

[CTpitch]

He has lots of positive things to say about the current DC stuff, but ever since Marvel went to the $3.99 price tag, he's been hellbent on saying every negative thing in the book about them.

really? I never see him on the DC boards

[Monty_Cristo]

I like Fraction just fine: loved Iron Fist, loving Defenders (he and Brian K. Vaughn are the only people who’ve ever written a Dr. Strange I could stand). Not a big fan of Thor or Iron Man as characters, so I haven’t read those runs. I even liked Fear Itself, probably because I bought it as a collected edition and read it all at once, vs. with a month in-between. Needless to say, I’m good with Fraction, I’m good with Aja, I’m good with Hawkeye. I’m even good with Hawkeye’s new costume.

The problem I have is making him a street-level type hero. I think Hawkeye works best when he’s the regular guy in anything-but-regular circumstances. I think that’s the reason the two best solo-esque books for him were McCann’s Hawkeye and Mockingbird and the old Mark Gruenwald mini…in both he was just a guy with a bow and trick arrows, but he was up against all kinds of craziness with super-assassins, ghosts, even a band of deadly jugglers. This just makes him seem like he’s going to be fall somewhere between Daredevil and the Punisher. That’s not the type of Hawkeye story I really want to read.

usually you have to face the lackeys before the final stage boss.

[SomeBodyAtCBR]

The problem I have is making him a street-level type hero. I think Hawkeye works best when he’s the regular guy in anything-but-regular circumstances. I think that’s the reason the two best solo-esque books for him were McCann’s Hawkeye and Mockingbird and the old Mark Gruenwald mini…in both he was just a guy with a bow and trick arrows, but he was up against all kinds of craziness with super-assassins, ghosts, even a band of deadly jugglers. This just makes him seem like he’s going to be fall somewhere between Daredevil and the Punisher. That’s not the type of Hawkeye story I really want to read.

I think we're going to see him start off street level and find himself engaged in something way bigger than he bargained for. It's par for the course for the character. Unless you count nighttime security as something greater than "street level work".

[Pixie_Solanas]

I highly recommend Mysterius by Jeff Parker and Tom Fowler that mini had a seasoned magician that was a complete and utter @$$ hat, topical humour (the burning man reference was LOL comic gold, and a pulp feel to it I loved it a lot.

I remember that, I think it was one of the last things put out by Wildstorm. It started off well and then just petered out.

[the Dagman]

I agree. Nothing wrong with Strange being a dick, he has always had that aspect about him.

His whole origin started because he was a dick. Snobby surgeon who wouldn't treat anyone unless they had the bucks right upfront, wouldn't even socialize with other doctors he deemed beneath him. Then he lost the use of his hands, then his practice, then lost everything and wound up homeless, and eventually made his way to Tibet to meet the Ancient One. The Ancient One seemed to only train dicks too. Look at Baron Mordo. Mordo vs. Strange was always really a battle of who was the biggest dick.

[Corey W]

His whole origin started because he was a dick. Snobby surgeon who wouldn't treat anyone unless they had the bucks right upfront, wouldn't even socialize with other doctors he deemed beneath him. Then he lost the use of his hands, then his practice, then lost everything and wound up homeless, and eventually made his way to Tibet to meet the Ancient One. The Ancient One seemed to only train dicks too. Look at Baron Mordo. Mordo vs. Strange was always really a battle of who was the biggest dick.

And Dr. Druid. He did train dicks.

[carabas]

His whole origin started because he was a dick. Snobby surgeon who wouldn't treat anyone unless they had the bucks right upfront, wouldn't even socialize with other doctors he deemed beneath him. Then he lost the use of his hands, then his practice, then lost everything and wound up homeless, and eventually made his way to Tibet to meet the Ancient One. The Ancient One seemed to only train dicks too. Look at Baron Mordo. Mordo vs. Strange was always really a battle of who was the biggest dick.

He's a Steve Ditko creation, after all. Guy pretty much specialised in dickish characters.

[turtletrekker]

Fraction wrote a very good story with Clint and Kate back in the Young Avengers Presents series. If he can re-capture even half of the chemistry (non-romantic chemistry, of course) between the two that he captured in that tale, then this will be made completely of "win".

[Frank]

Brubaker has admitted that most of the heavy lifting on Iron Fist was handled by Fraction.

Anyway, Fraction got on Hawkeye because he had a pitch that editorial liked. The end. What a stupid question.

I bet the pitch was movie Hawkeye + young girl. And then they went gaga.

Marvel has become so Hollywood. You could have guys who are the greatest pitchers yet are mediocre writers. Yet great creators who are not good pitcher or are not interested at pitching. Hence why great creators do not work at Marvel.

[Talisman]

really? I never see him on the DC boards

I remember him being there more frequently when the New 52 first started shipping, but I haven't been to those boards in quite some time.