Somebody explain to me the decision to put Fraction on Hawkeye?

[Sabrewulf]

Okay well first off Fraction has had the reigns of both Iron Man and Thor when they had the movies out. He even got a relaunch and the sales of both are in the toilet right now.

Secondly his high profile launch of Defenders also seems to be a failure already selling below 30k by #3.

I mean you can't do any more for the guy than give him a couple of high profile movies and a hugely hyped new title riding on the back of an event, one he wrote. Yet still he sheds readers.

So why the hell did Marvel give him a Hawkeye book. I mean are they completely incapable of accepting they are wrong about their 'architects' that they have to ruin one book after another's chances in a futile attempt to legitimise their decisions.

I mean movie aside, Hawkeye has been a tough sell at best. That was even when he looked like Hawkeye instead of Ultimate Hawkeye. Who'se recent series ended up at 23k and that was written by Hickman who people generally seem to like.

This is what frustrates me about Marvel the most. This architect thing. Which seems to be either giving their mates the choice projects or just catering to their personal tastes. Neither of which should wash with however is running the show at Marvel. It's like the kids been left home alone?

[JaggedFel]

IMO, you answered your own question. Marvel suffers from a bad case of editorial favoritism towards their architects some of whom deserve the title like Hickman while others like Fraction don't.

[the Dagman]

Given how slow Fraction's stories go, he should be given a Grey Gargoyle book. That way everyone can just sit around like a statue and no one will notice it's the writing.

[Personamanx]

It's Matt Fraction and David Aja on a book together again.

Say whay you want about him on Thor, Iron Man or Uncanny X-Men but seriously....

Just read "Immortal Iron Fist" and realize how awesome of a thing this actually is.

[Seresecros]

"Is anyone running the kids been left home alone?"

[Sabrewulf]

It's Matt Fraction and David Aja on a book together again.

Say whay you want about him on Thor, Iron Man or Uncanny X-Men but seriously....

Just read "Immortal Iron Fist" and realize how awesome of a thing this actually is.

See this seems like the go to thing with Fraction. Iron Fist. Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't that co-written by Brubaker?

Even if he didn't how many chances does a guy get to fail before you let that one go.

[dbcb314]

Hawkeye leads Secret Avengers

Hawkeye is in the Avengers

Hawkeye is in Avengers Academy

Hawkeye is in Avengers Assemble

Hawkeye is a big part of the Ultimate Universe

Hawkeye just had a issue with Spiderman in Avenging Spider-Man

Hawkeye is in another high profile relationship

Hawkeye is in a movie



So if the Hawkeye solo fails again... we Marvel finally move on and push another character like this instead? I mean christ... how much coverage can one character get?

[Personamanx]

See this seems like the go to thing with Fraction. Iron Fist. Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't that co-written by Brubaker?

Even if he didn't how many chances does a guy get to fail before you let that one go.

Brubaker added Orson Randall to the series. That's about it. Everything else was pure Fraction goodness.

He hasn't failed at all though. Uncanny X-Men was kind of blah but I liked his ideas, and you'll never catch me reading Iron Man or Thor but they are both selling well.

Do me a favour and read issue #7 of "Immortal Iron Fist" Aja was on a break between arcs and Fraction was the sole writer. It was literally the best done in one comic I have ever read from Marvel and is evidence that Fraction can be a pretty damn awesome writer.

Fraction and Aja on this book is the best thing that could ever have happened to Clint.

EDIT: Looks like Brubaker did co-write #7 as well. My mistake. Still do yourself a favour and read it, you have nothing to lose and an awesome comic to gain.

[direction9]

See this seems like the go to thing with Fraction. Iron Fist. Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't that co-written by Brubaker?

Even if he didn't how many chances does a guy get to fail before you let that one go.

no one with half a brain thinks that the order, invincible iron man, thor, or casanova are at all failures.
x-men fans with a grudge: please keep your terrible opinions to yourself, or at least locate some perspective.

thank you.

[JaggedFel]

It's Matt Fraction and David Aja on a book together again.

Say whay you want about him on Thor, Iron Man or Uncanny X-Men but seriously....

Just read "Immortal Iron Fist" and realize how awesome of a thing this actually is.

IMO, Immortal Iron Fist was awesome but from what I have seen of late Fraction no longer has that magic. I am weighing the bad of his Uncanny X-men, Fear Itself and Thor against Iron Man and Defenders being decent.

Fraction has 4 Books that is pretty busy so yes hopefully that means no Avengers for him.

[Runguy]

It's Matt Fraction and David Aja on a book together again.

Say whay you want about him on Thor, Iron Man or Uncanny X-Men but seriously....

Just read "Immortal Iron Fist" and realize how awesome of a thing this actually is.

However, the Thor example doesn't work as fans liked his Ages of Thunder but his Mighty Thor not so much

[hysang]

It's Matt Fraction and David Aja on a book together again.

Say whay you want about him on Thor, Iron Man or Uncanny X-Men but seriously....

Just read "Immortal Iron Fist" and realize how awesome of a thing this actually is.

I would argue that the Brubaker part of that equation was what made the books sing, but I'm probably wrong.

[CTpitch]

I mean I feel bad for this title in my perspective
its only a few things with the current Hawkeye that is bugging me
new costume, fact that it will probably take place in new york, been pushed in our faces because of a movie thats been bugging me
I have no qualms with Fraction IMO he is doing great on Iron man, Defenders will probably get my money when Jamie McKelvie is a regular on the title because I love the cast. But his Thor is bad and hopefully the crossover won't muck up the awesomeness of JiM

[SwagSwishBallHard]

Brubaker has admitted that most of the heavy lifting on Iron Fist was handled by Fraction.

Anyway, Fraction got on Hawkeye because he had a pitch that editorial liked. The end. What a stupid question.

[Hamdinger]

I don't get it either. Numbers have shown Fraction isn't the success Marvel sells him as, not even the highly promoted Defenders book managed to sell well beyond the first issue.

See even you are saying he's hit and miss. Why would you put someone who isn't consistent on as many books as he is comfortable with.

Plus his books really aren't selling. Well I mean they sell, but if you only sold 2 books you're books are selling. He's shedding readers on all his books at a rapid rate. If he stays on Iron Man much longer he's going to get the book cancelled. Anyhow you've obviously made up your mind about him and I respect your opinion.

I just don't feel the sales of his books stack up with the amount of high profile work he is getting.

Given how slow Fraction's stories go, he should be given a Grey Gargoyle book. That way everyone can just sit around like a statue and no one will notice it's the writing.

Hahaha damn right. Kudos!