*Nods at Transient Guest* Harry Dresden is replaced by Granny Weatherwax

[Guy Smiley]

How does the Dresdenverse fare?

[Surtur]

I can say one thing, she'd probably piss people off just as much as Harry does.

Though when in the timeline does she appear? For instance, I don't see her making it through the events of "Changes" and the assault on the Red Court alive. Harry had a lot of help there. Though at the same time, Harry had personal reasons for doing that, which Granny wouldn't have.

[Sol M]

To be fair, Granny does wipe the walls with a whole lot of Harry's enemies due to her telepathy not being resisted by most enemies.

Changes would be problematic if she were to take on an entire army by herself, not even including the Red King.

[Guy Smiley]

I can say one thing, she'd probably piss people off just as much as Harry does.

Though when in the timeline does she appear? For instance, I don't see her making it through the events of "Changes" and the assault on the Red Court alive. Harry had a lot of help there. Though at the same time, Harry had personal reasons for doing that, which Granny wouldn't have.

I was thinking about just sticking her in right there before Storm Front, presumably with some sort of requirement that she consider herself to be in roughly the same sort of level of responsibility for Chicago as she was for Lancre.

(I was originally going to do this as 'Harry gets trained in tactics by Granny Weatherwax', but decided that I might as well just stick Granny in there instead rather than try to figure out how receptive the normally headstrong Harry'd be to her tutelage.)

[Randy Mandy]

To be fair, Granny does wipe the walls with a whole lot of Harry's enemies due to her telepathy not being resisted by most enemies.

If she tries that kinda thing in the Dresdenverse, she becomes a violator of the Third (and possibly Fourth) Laws of Magic.

Which considering the White Council's approach to justice and crime-fighting wouldn't be good for Granny's odds.

[Surtur]

I'm not sure if she could actually figure out who is behind everything if she's going through the events in storm front. I have no idea what her P.I. skills are like, and she lacks the various magical and mundane connections in Chicago that Harry has. Magic also works a lot differently then the world she is used to.

If she tries that kinda thing in the Dresdenverse, she becomes a violator of the Third (and possibly Fourth) Laws of Magic.

Which considering the White Council's approach to justice and crime-fighting wouldn't be good for Granny's odds.

Isn't this only if someone finds out? Molly tried to get into that one Wardens head, Morgan said he didn't tell anyone about it and the council was none the wiser, and Morgan only knew because he was in the room at the time.

Also if she is using telepathy to defend herself they might let it slide. Though, if she uses telepathy in the same way Molly used it on her friends to rid them of a drug addiction..yeah she's in trouble. By the "same way" I don't mean using it to cure a drug addiction, but rather in a way that would be obvious that someone had messed with peoples heads.

[Wjowski]

To be fair, Granny does wipe the walls with a whole lot of Harry's enemies due to her telepathy not being resisted by most enemies.

Changes would be problematic if she were to take on an entire army by herself, not even including the Red King.

That's assuming she'll use the exact same tactics as Dresden.

[Sol M]

If she tries that kinda thing in the Dresdenverse, she becomes a violator of the Third (and possibly Fourth) Laws of Magic.

Which considering the White Council's approach to justice and crime-fighting wouldn't be good for Granny's odds.

No one would have to find out. Granny tends to be extremely subtle about such things.

Besides, she's a ridiculously powerful telepath. The White Council would have a good reason to fear her if they knew about her skill...even if she never used it.

I'm not sure if she could actually figure out who is behind everything if she's going through the events in storm front. I have no idea what her P.I. skills are like, and she lacks the various magical and mundane connections in Chicago that Harry has. Magic also works a lot differently then the world she is used to.

She has a good grasp of psychology, I suppose. But that doesn't translate into her having the investigative skills of Harry Dresden.

Honestly, this isn't her specialty.

Though, if she uses telepathy in the same way Molly used it on her friends to rid them of a drug addiction..yeah she's in trouble. By the "same way" I don't mean using it to cure a drug addiction, but rather in a way that would be obvious that someone had messed with peoples heads.

I'm not sure she capable of messing with their heads like that. Besides, it isn't her style.

That's assuming she'll use the exact same tactics as Dresden.

She shouldn't even be in the same situation, since she doesn't have a daughter. And can't conceive one with Susan's help. <_<

[Sol M]

(I was originally going to do this as 'Harry gets trained in tactics by Granny Weatherwax', but decided that I might as well just stick Granny in there instead rather than try to figure out how receptive the normally headstrong Harry'd be to her tutelage.)

Granny is a somewhat irritable old woman who keeps to herself as far as possible. Her tutelage would most likely involve her having Harry do chores. :P

That aside, she also dislikes the flashy brand of magic that Dresdenverse wizards use.

[Wjowski]

If she tries that kinda thing in the Dresdenverse, she becomes a violator of the Third (and possibly Fourth) Laws of Magic.

Which considering the White Council's approach to justice and crime-fighting wouldn't be good for Granny's odds.

And good damn luck to them finding out. Granny Weatherwax, and witches from her generation in general, were trained and conditioned to work with considerable subtlety, to the point of being able to use innocuous household items as magical foci.

[Omegalith]

And good damn luck to them finding out. Granny Weatherwax, and witches from her generation in general, were trained and conditioned to work with considerable subtlety, to the point of being able to use innocuous household items as magical foci.

This is true in the Dresden Files as well though: The spell is a mental construct, and the focus item is only used to take the place of part of a ritual to simplify it.

Investing magic in a knife at one point of the pentagram is fine, or you could just consistently imagine the same magic for the entire duration of the spell instead.

[Wjowski]

This is true in the Dresden Files as well though: The spell is a mental construct, and the focus item is only used to take the place of part of a ritual to simplify it.

Investing magic in a knife at one point of the pentagram is fine, or you could just consistently imagine the same magic for the entire duration of the spell instead.

To the point where said knife can be a simple butter knife?

[Omegalith]

To the point where said knife can be a simple butter knife?

To the point where you really don't need it at all.

[Wjowski]

To the point where you really don't need it at all.

The only foci-less magic I recall in Dresden Files is Harry summoning Uriel and Mab, and even then that only worked because they wanted to be there.

[Omegalith]

The only foci-less magic I recall in Dresden Files is Harry summoning Uriel and Mab, and even then that only worked because they wanted to be there.

Yes, but the reason it's normally not done is because it's a really bad idea, not because it doesn't work.