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    Quote Originally Posted by Simbob4000 View Post
    The Hulk is MoCapped by a human...how does he not move like a human, are there strange Hulk movements they haven't shown in any? I'm not seeing how the big human looking guy doesn't move like a human.
    There's tons of characters and creatures in films that do not move like humans but are motion-captured by humans.

    Gollum, for one.
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    'Mm,' she agreed. 'He's a little bit dodgy in the same way that rats are a little bit covered in fur."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Bravery View Post
    Because Hulk is about 10 foot tall and about 8 foot wide. He doesn't have a normal human body structure. He's more like a giant gorilla.

    And yea was mo-capped by Ruffalo, but that was mainly the facial expressions. It's another reason it should be purely CGI, so that the face of Hulk looks similar to the face of Banner.

    Do you know what forced perspective is? You can make a person look 10 feet tall and 8 feet wide if you wanted to for a movie, his height doesn't change the fact that his build is that of a human. Unless something happens they haven't shown in any trailer, the Hulk's build isn't anything like a gorilla at all, that would make him look like Earth X Hulk.

    You could still give another person a similar looking face to Ruffalo with prosthetics, you could also just put Ruffalo's face on another person digitally like in The Curious Case Of Benjamin Button.

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    I can't imagine how ridiculous it would look if Hulk were a painted bodybuilder. No, just no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simbob4000 View Post
    Do you know what forced perspective is? You can make a person look 10 feet tall and 8 feet wide if you wanted to for a movie, his height doesn't change the fact that his build is that of a human. Unless something happens they haven't shown in any trailer, the Hulk's build isn't anything like a gorilla at all, that would make him look like Earth X Hulk.

    You could still give another person a similar looking face to Ruffalo with prosthetics, you could also just put Ruffalo's face on another person digitally like in The Curious Case Of Benjamin Button.
    It wouldn't work. I've seen the film, trust me. No amount of forced perspectives would make a painted body builder with prosthetics look good whilst fighting side by side with Thor or jumping on a fighter jet and ripping it apart. It would look completely distracting and terrible. What you are suggesting would work great for someone like Drax. Drax has a more human physique, just larger. Hulk is nothing like that.

    Hulk's build is not that of a human. It's completely exaggerated. His head, arms, shoulders, hands are grotesquely large. He's not just a big human, he's a monster. And he moves like a giant ape.

    You're also not considering the fact that body builders are not actors. This Hulk emotes with his facial expressions. Some of which are pretty subtle. You need an actor, a great actor for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carabas View Post
    There's tons of characters and creatures in films that do not move like humans but are motion-captured by humans.

    Gollum, for one.
    Gollum moves like a person, a really weird person, but a person none the less. In fact, he seems to move exactly like Andy Serkis. Gollum has a human frame, why would you think he doesn't movie like a human?

    Quote Originally Posted by Meadow View Post
    I can't imagine how ridiculous it would look if Hulk were a painted bodybuilder. No, just no.
    It would likely look just like it looks now, I don't know if you've seen the Hulk...but he's a large man with a muscular build.

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    He is not simply a "large man with a muscular build". His head alone is about three times bigger than a normal human beings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Bravery View Post
    He is not simply a "large man with a muscular build". His head alone is about three times bigger than a normal human beings.



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    I know what forced perspective is. I'm saying it wouldn't work with Hulk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Bravery View Post
    I know what forced perspective is. I'm saying it wouldn't work with Hulk.
    I was showing you it can make someones head look three times bigger than a normal persons, your comment made it sound like you really don't get how much of a visual difference it can make.

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    I know how much difference it can make. But again, Hulk is not like the Uruk Hai or Hellboy or any characters like that. He's more like Peter Jackson's King Kong.

    Wait until you see the movie, you'll get what i'm saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Bravery View Post
    I know how much difference it can make. But again, Hulk is not like the Uruk Hai or Hellboy or any characters like that. He's more like Peter Jackson's King Kong.

    Wait until you see the movie, you'll get what i'm saying.


    I'm not seeing how he looks like a gorilla, that would make him look like this.



    Unless there's something they aren't showing, he doesn't look like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simbob4000 View Post
    Gollum moves like a person, a really weird person, but a person none the less. In fact, he seems to move exactly like Andy Serkis. Gollum has a human frame, why would you think he doesn't movie like a human?
    Well, I've most certainly never seen a person move like that.

    And motion-capture can and has been translated onto character models that do not have actual human anatomy and proportions. Like for instance, Gollum.

    The Hulk does not actually look like a large, muscular man. He looks like a huge, mostly humanshaped monster when drawn properly. There's only so much you can do with forced perspective. In Lord Of The Rings they went with full CGI hobbits and Gimlis where necessary.
    'The marquis. Well, you know, to be honest, he seems a little bit dodgy to me.'
    'Mm,' she agreed. 'He's a little bit dodgy in the same way that rats are a little bit covered in fur."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simbob4000 View Post
    I'm not seeing how he looks like a gorilla, that would make him look like this.



    Unless there's something they aren't showing, he doesn't look like that.
    Exactly. Apart from the hair, that is how Hulk moves in the movie. There is an actual scene where he is in a pose identical to that picture. I would give you exact details but i don't want to spoil it, because it's an awesome scene that happens right at the very end.

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    Another "seen the movie" opinion coming in on this one: if Hulk was done like you're suggesting it would have been laughably bad.

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