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    Guardians of the Galaxy? How would I do it so it doesn't get cancelled? Well, here's my plan:

    First step - Make it enticing

    In order to make it enticing, I'd have to gauge reader responses. How would I do such a thing? Have the characters that will make up the Guardians line-up show up throughout the Marvel U, in the background of some really big storylines running across each book, but also making sure that they don't blend in completely in the background.

    How? Well, have a scene in The Avengers where Spider-Man is walking into a room where Captain America and Iron Man are looking at a video screen with Nova and Quasar, talking about something seriously going wrong and how they would not be in contact with the Avengers for a while. Then show the Kid Gladiator talking to Warbird about how they'd should have left the mudball to help Gladiator in the war that is in full-swing in some distant corner of the galaxy. Have Captain Marvel show up in Defenders to meet up with the Surfer and leave the comic within the first 3 panels, with a quick conversation blip about how they are both needed elsewhere.

    See how the kind of reaction this gets. Then do a teaser image of the this story showing up in the pages of a new comic coming up.

    Second step - Show some dedication and support

    Some newbie writer along with an average artist on the new GotG book? Ok, it might sell. But get some names on it and make promises about how great it will be. Really show that this book is here to stay. Explain that the book has a 2 year plan, right from the begining because this is how great it is going to be. It will stick around for 24 issues, because that's how big the story is. In order to tell this story, you're going to have some really big names on it. DnA may not be big names, but given enough love, they can very well be the guys who brings you the next IT book. Give them a consistent and great roster of artists that will tell each story and see what that does to the fans.

    Third Step - Line up that beats all line up


    Yeah, Nova and the Annihilators are powerful, but they sure do have some boring personalities on that team. You wanna make the roster pop? You gotta have the powerhouses and the quirky characters. Imagine Star Trek with Captain Kirk and 4 Datas and 3 Qs. Imagine Lord of the Rings trio of Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli being replaced by Aragorn, Gandalf, and Treebeard? That's just NOT how you do it. You gotta make sure there are some great cosmic characters in there. That means:

    Nova
    Captain Marvel (gotta have the new lady powerhouse)
    Silver Surfer
    Groot
    Rocket Raccoon
    Kl'rt the Super Skrull
    Gamora
    and for the hell of it...toss in Blue Marvel, because there just aren't enough super powerful black guys in space, dammit!

    Fourth step - Make it relevant


    That one thing Axel Alonso said that I still have a problem with...ongoing, in-continuity average books will always sell better than really well told, well illustrated limited series. In order to make Guardians relevant, you have to have things that play a factor in the larger Marvel U. If there's an Annihilation level threat that's plaguing the Marvel U, there's going to have to be some casualties, changes in allegiance, dramatic alteration of tactics based on desperation, and ultimately a payoff that matters to the larger Marvel U with lasting changes.

    Those are my ideas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corey W View Post
    Giffen. I thought the Starlord mini in Annihilation: Conquest was excellent as was everything he wrote in the Annihilation event, including the main book. DnA are great, and I have been a fan for years, but for my money Giffen wrote the best cosmic stuff of the past 10 years.
    What he said. Agreed 100%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deep_Sleeper View Post
    Third Step - Line up that beats all line up[/U]

    Yeah, Nova and the Annihilators are powerful, but they sure do have some boring personalities on that team. You wanna make the roster pop? You gotta have the powerhouses and the quirky characters. Imagine Star Trek with Captain Kirk and 4 Datas and 3 Qs. Imagine Lord of the Rings trio of Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli being replaced by Aragorn, Gandalf, and Treebeard? That's just NOT how you do it. You gotta make sure there are some great cosmic characters in there. That means:

    Nova
    Captain Marvel (gotta have the new lady powerhouse)
    Silver Surfer
    Groot
    Rocket Raccoon
    Kl'rt the Super Skrull
    Gamora
    and for the hell of it...toss in Blue Marvel, because there just aren't enough super powerful black guys in space, dammit!
    The problem is, there is no Guardians of the Galaxy without Star Lord and Mantis. They're the head and the heart of the recent team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deep_Sleeper View Post
    and for the hell of it...toss in Blue Marvel, because there just aren't enough super powerful black guys in space, dammit!
    Hey, I said Maxam, dammit!

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    Nova & GotG were the only Marvel I read until Hickman's F4/FF. Now I only read F4/FF.

    I want GOOD Marvel cosmic again.

    If they made a new team, it should be:
    • Star-Lord
    • Mantis
    • Nova
    • Quasar
    • Silver Surfer
    • Gamora
    • Groot
    • Rocket Racoon
    • NuCaptain Marvel
    • Super Skrull
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    Personally, I wonder whatever happened to these guys:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady_Alternate View Post
    The problem is, there is no Guardians of the Galaxy without Star Lord and Mantis. They're the head and the heart of the recent team.
    screw that he forgot Cosmo
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    GOTG was the finest team book in decades. At least in my opinion. The characters worked and meshed so well together. It wasn't like, you know, superstars teaming up like the Avengers and JL. There was actual utility in the team and all the individual members of the GOTG compared to the superteams(JL and Avengers), like why doesn't Superman or Iron Man or The Flash just handle the situation at hand, ya know? What's the point of a team for those guys? I'm not going to rant. I just really, really liked the Guardians.

    O yea, Star Lord is a great character. My fave of them all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xothermic View Post
    GOTG was the finest team book in decades. At least in my opinion. The characters worked and meshed so well together. It wasn't like, you know, superstars teaming up like the Avengers and JL. There was actual utility in the team and all the individual members of the GOTG compared to the superteams(JL and Avengers), like why doesn't Superman or Iron Man or The Flash just handle the situation at hand, ya know? What's the point of a team for those guys? I'm not going to rant. I just really, really liked the Guardians.

    O yea, Star Lord is a great character. My fave of them all.
    I agree with ya bud they are my favourite team. Love all the characters. they were just a ragtag team saving the universe more important than the x-men and avengers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CTpitch View Post
    I agree with ya bud they are my favourite team. Love all the characters. they were just a ragtag team saving the universe more important than the x-men and avengers.
    And, as I've said here and elsewhere, this is why they will translate well to the big screen, where other more established heroes won't. Talking trees, raccoons, puppies and all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady_Alternate View Post
    And, as I've said here and elsewhere, this is why they will translate well to the big screen, where other more established heroes won't. Talking trees, raccoons, puppies and all.
    and don't forget
    a bald, green psychopath who is a very protective father
    a bald Bisexual
    a green telepathic(starting to see a theme here...) with antennas and martial arts training
    a technophobe
    and a leader trying to prove himself.... god I love this team
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    Yes! I miss old comics so much! We have too many x books that took the place of other team books.

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    My version of the GOTG:
    -Star-Lord, Rocket Raccoon & Groot are the mainstays in my mind and should always be there.
    -Starhawk:The female version of the character.
    -Quasar:Works well with Star-Lord.
    -Crystal:She works best away from the Inhumans I think.
    -Genis-Vell:Great character that needs to be brought back.
    -Cosmo & Mantis as support members.

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    To me Guardians of the Galaxy are Starhawk, Vance Astro, Nikki, etc. That's not to say I necessarily like them better... but I still think of them as the Guardians.

    I'm cool with a cosmic team of guys like Nova and Starlord, but I sort of think they should change their name.

    That said, generally speaking I do want more love for the cosmic stuff at marvel. The annihilators stuff frankly killed what little momentum the cosmic books had since Annihilation... hopefully what comes next can start the ball rolling again.

    As far as a cosmic team in general, I'm a big fan of the Starlin characters (Adam Warlock, Pip, Gamora, Drax) IF a writer can come along and do them justice. They're a hard bunch to get right. There are times I wonder if anyone OTHER than Starlin can really write them well.

    I like Nova and Starlord too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XPac View Post
    To me Guardians of the Galaxy are Starhawk, Vance Astro, Nikki, etc. That's not to say I necessarily like them better... but I still think of them as the Guardians.

    I'm cool with a cosmic team of guys like Nova and Starlord, but I sort of think they should change their name.

    That said, generally speaking I do want more love for the cosmic stuff at marvel. The annihilators stuff frankly killed what little momentum the cosmic books had since Annihilation... hopefully what comes next can start the ball rolling again.

    As far as a cosmic team in general, I'm a big fan of the Starlin characters (Adam Warlock, Pip, Gamora, Drax) IF a writer can come along and do them justice. They're a hard bunch to get right. There are times I wonder if anyone OTHER than Starlin can really write them well.

    I like Nova and Starlord too.
    Not sure why you think they should change the name? I think both teams(present/future) were tied together well in the last series and the name makes sense. I have to admit I have not read the original, but it is definitely on my must read list.

    I think the team I named mixes a bit of everything and the best part about cosmic is you can have guest stars all the the time and not have them feel forced...

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