Issue 1, Hyde loses the head, issue 2, Snapdragon apologizes to Nefaria for the head getting lost, at the time, it's a genuine Ultron head and potentially VERY dangerous, Moon Knight knows the potential is there, whether or not the AI is active or not.
Is this comment for real? Brian Michael Bendis hasn't proven himself? Are you serious? I don't even know what to say about this. Even if you hate him (which you obviously do) his resume PROVES he's a capable writer and can sell books. And which time did he show he struggles with this type of genre, his respected Daredevil run you ignored? Jynx? Alias? Man, you take the word "hater" to its ultimate level.um... Just one with some proven skill, who aren't just phoning it in. Don't care who as long as they fit the kind of story they are looking to tell. A writer whose preference suits the sub genre, an artist who likewise suits the narrative style.
And I'm not gonna comment on art since it's so subjective and you seem to know little about the fine arts, but Alex Maleev is super talented.
Last edited by Treqqor; 05-03-2012 at 10:42 AM.
Yeah, looking at his body of work and Bendis seems an obvious choice to put on a character like Moon Knight, maybe too obvious and to on the nose. On paper at least, the only person I can think of right now that'd be more ideal would be Ed Brubaker.Is this comment for real? Brian Michael Bendis hasn't proven himself? Are you serious? I don't even know what to say about this. Even if you hate him (which you obviously do) his resume PROVES he's a capable writer and can sell books. And which time did he show he struggles with this type of genre, his respected Daredevil run you ignored? Jynx? Alias? Man, you take the word "hater" to its ultimate level.
Oh certainly. Not the flashiest guy out there, his figure work, gesture and posing, and facial expressions are phenomenal.And I'm not gonna comment on art since it's so subjective and you seem to know little about the fine arts, but Alex Maleev is super talented.
There is only one Batman.
Bendis is coming off as a little burnt out at the moment, which is probably pretty accurate, considering he writing no less then what? Six books a month?
Daredevil fits just as much of the Batman archetype as Moon Knight does, maybe moreso (street level, grim and gritty, no real powers, parent was murdered in effect creating the hero...). He just isn't rich as Wayne and has a more interesting personal life.
Odd that you find Alex Maleev to work fine for one in theory but not the other.
EDIT: But thats all moot, as the main issue is not the artists style, but the lack of plotting & plot consistency over the life of the character, even in the micro. A plan greater then "moon Knight gets arse kicked while being crazy" is required to make him an interesting character in execution. As far as i can see, its the only thing stopping Moon Knight from being a smash hit for Marvel. I mean for a company that is trying to make money, they seem to be wasting this characters potential.
Last edited by kelly_warrior_princess; 05-03-2012 at 08:21 PM.
Mike Deodato is a tremendous artist with a fantastic work ethic. Watching him work is a real treat. He's got a knack for creating bold, brash, and powerfully dynamic superhero characters and strong camera angles.
What he is not, is a subtler and more nuanced artist than Alex Maleev.
I still think it's a huge mistake. DD is pretty much his own character too. He's not a genius, he's not super rich. Writers correctly have not tied him too closely...other then the built in similarities these characters have...they need to move in their own direction. Otherwise, the will be looked at as a cheap knock off.
I get what Kelly is saying though. Just wants to see Marc shine, instead of being crapped on...be more formidable, more compelling. I agree totally on that point.
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A. The book is already completed & cancelled
B. Its the writing that needs the most work, not the art work.
But really this doesn't really make any difference to Moon Knight as a whole. Moon Knight needs a consistent character view, with streamlinning of the superflous nonsense & with a consistant narrative over view: Kind of like what Wolfman did for Teen Titans back in the day. That alone would elevate Moon Knight to the position of A list character for Marvel. But Marvel has a tendency to not let anyone really get any import if its not in a main book. Which in its self is one of there main problems with there current business model.
Last edited by kelly_warrior_princess; 05-03-2012 at 09:26 PM.
Not a big Bendis or Maleev fan but I did enjoy this run, issue 7 or 8, cant remember which one it was with the fight with Nefaria was severe...really enjoyed it.
In your opinion, which is a long way from proven fact.No it doesn't. It has no baring on the fact that this voulme was demonstrably bad. It was a poor story,executed poorly.
No it showed that people got killed & he gotten beaten by that same character, having to call in the Avengers for the win. That doesn't show MK being awesome, it shows him being generally incompotent. That would be like the real Batman having to call in the Justice League to help him win.
Actually no. How many times did Moon Knight outsmart Nefaria over the course of 12 issues? By the way you argue, one would imagine MK was solidly beaten within the first 3 issues and pressing a big red button for Cap's help. He wasn't. I'll say it again: he lasted through Nefaria's flunkies - Night Shift, Snapdragon, Madame Masque and Nefaria himself a few times, with a small team consisting of only Echo and Buck. That is not the definition of incompetent. The fact Echo was lost legitimises how Nefaria was that much of a threat.
And the fact Moony called the Avengers in the end after he laid a final trap (which uses cunning, traditionally) shows that he was smart enough to outwit Nefaria one last time and to know to pull the pin on the whole operation.
Meanwhile, the Batman comparison is ridiculous, considering they're completey different characters and the fact Bats is basically a walking Deus Ex Machina who can beat up Superman, just because. If I had to choose between Moon Knight being like that or a more grounded hero that can be beaten down but realistically hold his own, I'll take the latter.
To review: he lured and found out who was the kingpin of L.A. and most important who it was after the Ultron head. He then laid a trap to catch them. And moreover, he --->survived<---. My point still stands.
Last edited by okpanic; 05-04-2012 at 04:36 AM.
I think i may file this story in the long box under "Moon Knight: The tale of the wonderful non sequitars". Like i said, this story just doesn't make sense, even at the most basic cognitive level.
No matter what way you cut it, MK stumbles through a half arsed plot, which goes no where & took 12 issues to get there.
EDIT: This honestly read like Bendis was writing it between trying to write something more important... Like he just couldn't be bothered putting any real effort in.
Last edited by kelly_warrior_princess; 05-04-2012 at 06:56 AM.
The only thing that can save the "franchise" so to speak would be to pair him up with someone ala Power Man / Iron Fist. Got this most recent Bendis run and the original when it came out. Little improvement over the decades. My first thought would be Punisher but they cancel each other out. Dr. Strange could work on supernatural level but that would have limited appeal. He's just a blah "hero" to me with a limited skillset and generic back story that most comic readers seem to care little for.
Bring back the stuff that made him unique: the multiple I.Ds, the sidekicks/agents and work with THAT.
Unlike most comic book crimefighters, Moon Knight has a believable system for finding out stuff.
He uses his sidekicks as informants to get intel.
Moon Knight has done stuff like sent his live in girlfriend into a terrorist camp posing as a bodyguard.
The possibility of real harm coming to the supporting cast adds an element of danger that isn't in most books.
He's already gotten the guy who piloted his chopper crippled.
Last edited by Vic Vega; 05-04-2012 at 01:00 PM.