Bendis goes cosmic?! Will his next book be GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY?

[CTpitch]

I believe this title will be a measuring stick for cosmic books in the future. If it sells well, Marvel will be more inclined to expand their cosmic line, like another Nova series or another mega cosmic event like Annihilation!

and if people don't support it, well then you'll probably never see these characters ever again

but thats the thing Cosmic Marvel is more Cultish so it won't sell huge numbers no matter who you put on it
it will have a numbers of readers on it that will remain fateful if its good

[Paladin King]

really? reading a whole issue with Luke Cage and Jessica Jones trying to order pizza doesn't bother you?

which issue was that again?

[Moriarty]

I would much rather have no book. I'd much rather be able to look at DnA's GotG on my shelf, and be happy it is what it is.
Whenever I look at my Moon Knight collection I sigh, because I know that Moon Knight is running around trying to produce a TV show, while hallucinating Marvel's most over rated characters.
At least I can imagine Major Victory and Jack Flagg soaring around the universe, while fighting space crime.
If Bendis takes over, they're just gonna sit around and eat bagels, talking about girls, while Mantis sits in a corner, ignored.

agreed. i feel the same way about the recent Moon Knight series. i'd feel the same way if he took over Guardians.

[Paladin King]

but thats the thing Cosmic Marvel is more Cultish so it won't sell huge numbers no matter who you put on it
it will have a numbers of readers on it that will remain fateful if its good

It'll certainly help if Marvel learns its lesson and doesn't try to give the books $3.99 price tags across the board simply because of Bendis' name. That sure didn't work out for Moon Knight.

That said, I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up being EXACTLY what happens.

[RDMacQ]

Thats hilarious because when I think Bendis I think sitting around table eating chinese and talk mockingly of others.
He's better off on Street Level heroes, its the only thing he's good at .

So, basically the main criticism of Bendis is the same lame talking point about something he's had in the book a few times, as if somehow that's a gigantic criticism of his talent?

Yeah, kind of thought so.

[CTpitch]

which issue was that again?

basically all of new avengers

[RDMacQ]

Oh please, no. Laziest response ever to a contradictory opinion.

If you like Bendis then tell everyone what you think his strengths are in regards to the Cosmic books and what he can bring to the table (other than a bump in sales, or maybe that's it and I'm missing the point)?

Don't just play the lame "haters" card...

Well, personally speaking I think that Bendis is a skilled storyteller, and has one of the most unique voices in the industry. People bitch about "all his characters sounding the same," but I think people confuse a writer having a "distinct" style with having a "repetitive" one. People can tell if someone from the pen of David Mamet. Or is written by Quentin Tarrantino. Or anyone with a singular voice. This is not a bad thing. Someone standing out shows how individual their style is.

Also, Bendis DOES try new things when he gets on a title, and it is risky. Bitch all you want, but putting Wolvie and Spidey on the Avengers was a new move that no one had tried before, for one reason or another. And before that, revealing DD's ID to the world really put that title on the map and made people take notice. And this isn't the "safe" sort of risk you see other writers taking, which is just a return to a previous status quo to do the same safe, predictable stories that have been told time and time again. This is a NEW risk, something that throws the entire book off and really has readers questioning "what happens next." Because he doesn't just follow the same patterns of those that came before. He doesn't take the safe path.

Finally, I think Bendis really does a good job of getting into the heads of his characters. He makes their actions believable. You can understand why the Kingpin would think he isn't the bad guy in Ultimate Spider-Man the way he has him explain his actions. You understand why the Avengers might put the notion of bumping Osborn off on the table for discussion. It's a debate, where people are just discussion options. But everyone's voices ring true, from Wolverine's pragmatism, to Carol's peace making. Even though these characters are larger than life superheroes, he makes their actions feel real.

Is he perfect? Hell no. He has his flaws. His big stories do have a habit of resolving the same way. He doesn't always make the best use of all of the characters whenever he writers a team, and some get pushed to the background. And he does tend to rely on an "easy out" button to finish a fight. But I still think he's a great writer, with plenty of strengths to easily offset his flaws.

[tigerkaya]

So, basically the main criticism of Bendis is the same lame talking point about something he's had in the book a few times, as if somehow that's a gigantic criticism of his talent?

Pretty much. :)

[Hulk_Is]

Well, personally speaking I think that Bendis is a skilled storyteller, and has one of the most unique voices in the industry. People bitch about "all his characters sounding the same," but I think people confuse a writer having a "distinct" style with having a "repetitive" one. People can tell if someone from the pen of David Mamet. Or is written by Quentin Tarrantino. Or anyone with a singular voice. This is not a bad thing. Someone standing out shows how individual their style is.

Also, Bendis DOES try new things when he gets on a title, and it is risky. Bitch all you want, but putting Wolvie and Spidey on the Avengers was a new move that no one had tried before, for one reason or another. And before that, revealing DD's ID to the world really put that title on the map and made people take notice. And this isn't the "safe" sort of risk you see other writers taking, which is just a return to a previous status quo to do the same safe, predictable stories that have been told time and time again. This is a NEW risk, something that throws the entire book off and really has readers questioning "what happens next." Because he doesn't just follow the same patterns of those that came before. He doesn't take the safe path.

Finally, I think Bendis really does a good job of getting into the heads of his characters. He makes their actions believable. You can understand why the Kingpin would think he isn't the bad guy in Ultimate Spider-Man the way he has him explain his actions. You understand why the Avengers might put the notion of bumping Osborn off on the table for discussion. It's a debate, where people are just discussion options. But everyone's voices ring true, from Wolverine's pragmatism, to Carol's peace making. Even though these characters are larger than life superheroes, he makes their actions feel real.

Is he perfect? Hell no. He has his flaws. His big stories do have a habit of resolving the same way. He doesn't always make the best use of all of the characters whenever he writers a team, and some get pushed to the background. And he does tend to rely on an "easy out" button to finish a fight. But I still think he's a great writer, with plenty of strengths to easily offset his flaws.

I'm having a hard time believing any of this. Not saying that I don't believe you. But, I'm going to need a a few more minutes to let this all sink in.

[CTpitch]

I'm having a hard time believing any of this. Not saying that I don't believe you. But, I'm going to need a a few more minutes to let this all sink in.

I know eh? He's trying to make me feel bad for Bendis...then I remember Avengers assemble

[Van Custo]

His weakness is cosmic or really powerful characters so NO. Keep him on street level stuff.

[Paladin King]

basically all of new avengers

lol yeah, that's what I thought.

This is why I say: haters gonna hate.

[AdamYJ]

So, cosmic Bendis. A group of characters who have often been characterized, at least since the 1970s, as speaking in high-toned, somewhat Shakespearean dialogue often with philosophical soliloquies may now be talking in snippy Bendis dialogue. Seriously, try to imagine Silver Surfer or Adam Warlock talking in Bendis's patented dialogue. That would be funny for an issue at least.

Anyway, I'm not interested. Call me a hater or whatever, but I just don't dig the man's style.

[Predabot]

Finally, I've found the post to describe my thoughts on the whole Cosmic mess of the last few years. Annihilation was brilliant, but DnA systematically destroyed everything.

Thank you. At last someone has the guts to actually admit what a portion of the readership feels about DnA.

It was basically the same thing that happened to Heroes for Hire, they had a promising start, but then everything started going down-hill.

Just gotta hope he doesn't want a run at the Cosmic stuff, coz if he wants it then it's pretty much a given that he'll be able to take a crack at it.

Well, if it makes you feel any better, the only cosmic character I recall him actually wanting a crack at is ROM - Spaceknight. So if you're lucky I suppose it might only be a reboot of Spaceknights. ( hopefully with Rom renamed and slightly redesigned)

but thats the thing Cosmic Marvel is more Cultish so it won't sell huge numbers no matter who you put on it
it will have a numbers of readers on it that will remain fateful if its good

When Giffen was put on Annihilation, one could argue that it was selling pretty well. They did some new and interesting stuff with the characters there, and it sold pretty well, I should say.

I do think the same level of sales is achievable with a big-name writer coming in and doing his or her thing.

[Mr. Rice]

Thank you. At last someone has the guts to actually admit what a portion of the readership feels about DnA.

It was basically the same thing that happened to Heroes for Hire, they had a promising start, but then everything started going down-hill.

I admit it. Thanos Imperative wasn't good. But I don't blame DnA; I blame the people who told DnA to wrap everything up in one miniseries, because that's what it felt like. The artists also couldn't draw Rocket Raccoon consistently. But besides that, GotG was great all the way through. And I don't think it takes "guts" to admit you don't like something on the internet, as seen by my own distaste for Bendis. Most of the time it takes more "guts" to defend something, which I don't have (I like ALL Fraction's work).

But your point about Heroes for Hire made something click. DnA did great Cosmic, then sucked at street level. Apparently Bendis does good street level, but will suck doing Cosmic. The pattern is there.