Solicitations for July 2012 Ultimate Marvel

[wyokid]

If the variant is better then the cover. Why even have Karre Andrews.

I disagree.

I love this cover, but the spider logo has 10 legs. Strange mistake

That's the completely wrong logo O.O

[Trevor M.]

I definitely prefer Jorge Molina to do the covers over Andrews. Molina's covers are accurate to begin with, have an eerie feel that is almost hypnotic and don't look like poor CGI.

Take a closer look at Miles' Spider logo.

[Plawsky]

That's the completely wrong logo O.O

Kinda like Samnee's logo for Peter

[wyokid]

Kinda like Samnee's logo for Peter

I wasn't complaining, it was merely an observation.

[MrV]

Take a closer look at Miles' Spider logo.

Your point is? Oh, it's because I said Molina's covers were more accurate?

It's only two additional legs. It's not as bad as having the characters wear costumes they will never use within the story or showing the hero with webs he doesn't have yet. And don't get me started with Thor using the movie hammer!

[Trevor M.]

Your point is? Oh, it's because I said Molina's covers were more accurate?

It's only two additional legs.

Still a screw up and it's only his second cover.

It's not as bad as having the characters wear costumes they will never use within the story or showing the hero with webs he doesn't have yet.

These things will happen eventually just give it some time.

And don't get me started with Thor using the movie hammer!

Or Aaron's costume being that shade of purple.

[sage6paths]

Still a screw up and it's only his second cover.

These things will happen eventually just give it some time.

Or Aaron's costume being that shade of purple.

Kitty is never going to wear that yellow costume ever. Its false advertisement.

[Plawsky]

It's only two additional legs. It's not as bad as having the characters wear costumes they will never use within the story

It's exactly the same thing. Unless something changes, Miles will not have a 10-legged spider on his costume.

[Trevor M.]

Kitty is never going to wear that yellow costume ever. Its false advertisement.

How do you know?

[MrV]

It's exactly the same thing. Unless something changes, Miles will not have a 10-legged spider on his costume.

No, it is not. Andrews purposely drew the covers wrong.

Purposely doing something is NOT the same as doing something on accident like Molina with the 10 legs.

[Kurolegacy]

Gotta say, this sounds like it's gonna be a good issue of Ultimate Spider-Man. It seems we're finally getting somewhere near the end of this arc or at least at its head. But if Aaron s a crime lord now, does that mean that Scorpion was beaten last issue? And where is Mysterio in all of this considering he was trying to become the new kingpin aster he killed Fisk? Though I gotta say, this is the best cover for the relaunch of Ultimate Spider-Man even with the error with Mile's logo.

[Plawsky]

No, it is not. Andrews purposely drew the covers wrong.

Purposely doing something is NOT the same as doing something on accident like Molina with the 10 legs.

How do you know what was on purpose or what was an accident?

You act as if Andrews is maliciously trying to deceive us. Did you ever consider that maybe he was getting direction for the covers from someone else? Medina and Bagley used the same costume for Jimmy on their variant covers and Pichelli has also drawn miles with webs on a variant cover. Do you think that maybe, just maybe, those costumes will eventually be worn?

And accident or not, I don't see how Molina's mistake is suddenly okay. Ask any random kid how many legs a spider has, and they'll all tell you it's eight. Why is that excusable, but any of Andrews's "mistakes" are not?

Also, your previous complaint about Andrews drawing the "movie hammer" is baseless. It's not just the movie hammer, it's also the hammer he's been seen using in the Ultimate Universe as recently as issue #2 of this same series.

[sage6paths]

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Also, your previous complaint about Andrews drawing the "movie hammer" is baseless. It's not just the movie hammer, it's also the hammer he's been seen using in the Ultimate Universe as recently as issue #2 of this same series.

Actually we proved that wrong.
As for Andrews I think he is given limited info and told to draw this. Not entirely his fault but some of his covers have nothing to do with the issue. Why does Thor have Brick Hammer and not Axe hammer. Where is shroud costume. Its not coming up until a few issues later in his cover and by then Kitty will be in the white track suit. He is not given enough info to draw covers. Not his fault for everything.

[MrV]

How do you know what was on purpose or what was an accident?

Anyone with brains knows arachnids have 8 legs. Molina is a person of average intelligence at least and a competent artist with great composition and conscious of colors (look at the Issue #13 variant where Kitty wears the white uniform). An embarrassing error like giving a spider 10 legs can only be the result of an accident or external factors affecting his work like stress or lack of sleep.

You act as if Andrews is maliciously trying to deceive us. Did you ever consider that maybe he was getting direction for the covers from someone else? Medina and Bagley used the same costume for Jimmy on their variant covers and Pichelli has also drawn miles with webs on a variant cover. Do you think that maybe, just maybe, those costumes will eventually be worn?

Oh, really? Did it ever occur to you Bagley was only using that because he saw Andrews' cover? Medina too, why else would they draw everyone else in their correct uniforms but just leave Jimmy in that outfit? They must have seen what Andrews did and probably thought he was actually going to use that costume, but for the others they knew it was not right so they went with Kitty as Shroud and Bobby with bandana instead of the cap.

If Andrews only used those outfits for placeholders it is still deceiving so yes, he is deceiving us. But perhaps because someone told him to as you said. It still doesn't change one thing: if they are placeholders it would explain why they are so poorly designed.

As far as I'm concerned none of Spencer's X-Men have worn those yellow outfits within the story and he is already in the final act of his run with 2 issues left. Even if they do for it for his last issue, the variant cover for Issue #13 already shows Kitty in a white uniform. What's that about? As someone also mentioned, Wood will not be doing "Spencer 2.0," so he will most likely use the white uniform instead.

And accident or not, I don't see how Molina's mistake is suddenly okay. Ask any random kid how many legs a spider has, and they'll all tell you it's eight. Why is that excusable, but any of Andrews's "mistakes" are not?

It's not okay either, but it's not as big of an offense as Andrews' placeholders. You won't notice the 10 legs right away like you will with Andrews' inaccuracies. On degrees of accuracy Molina beats Andrews.

Also, your previous complaint about Andrews drawing the "movie hammer" is baseless. It's not just the movie hammer, it's also the hammer he's been seen using in the Ultimate Universe as recently as issue #2 of this same series.

It's not baseless, the hammer he used was a block of stone, the one depicted on that cover is the exact same one from the movie, complete with Celtic decorations and the edges of the block chopped off to look like a gemstone. Also, Thor gave block Mjolnir to Modi and now he's using the axe-hammer again. If he can draw Kitty for once with the correct outfit of Shroud (Issue #13), how hard can it be to draw Thor with the correct hammer?

EDIT: Guess what? The spider looks like it has 10 legs but it doesn't... see? The "legs" closer to the abdomen of the spider are actually the lines around the abdomen. If you notice Miles' costume is ripped, most likely the bottom of the abdomen got torn off or the artist just forgot to color that part.

[Balfro]

Good thing somebody finally chimed in about the extra legs not really being legs... I was reading every post wondering if any of you had ever even seen Miles' emblem. It's a simple art error while trying to recreate the line around the abdomen of the spider, not an extra pair of legs :P