About a decade ago Marvel was fighting for its life with DC trying to cut off its air supply by luring away talent such as Grant Morrison. Against this threat Marvel was able to retain JMS, develop Bendis, and acquire the services of a group unhappy with their creative treatment at DC: creators associated with The Authority. In my opinion, a promise was made and now can be fulfilled with the next generation of writers of the Ultimates franchise. The existence of powers should be a society-changing event, an existential question as to the future of humanity. Superhero stories to be legitimate fiction must deal honestly with the scope of the changes that would result and not be restricted to stereotyped superhero vs supervillain fights.
In my opinion in the crossover we are going to see this promise fulfilled, an all-out war between those with powers and ordinary humanity, at in the United States that has been rocked by a coup and now is under the control of a military dictatorship. This won't be a 616 Marvel type of Civil War where for the most part the participants do not start using lethal force; instead, in the Ultimates Universe the gloves will come off from the beginning and all shots taken will be with lethal intent.
Those with powers will need an Ultimates version of a leader, a leader not afraid to kill, a leader willing to go to whatever extremes he feels is necessary to overthrow the illegitimate government he is fighting against. That leader is Ultimate Captain America.
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Anyone who doesn't like Miles Morales is a racist.
Then, there's the aftermath, where Captain America gets rid of his ties to SHIELD because of the danger it has been posing to the country and everyone is cheering the victory in front of American flags left standing. And the book finishes with a flashback to Steve Rogers, talking about how he's willing to undergo an extremely risky experiment in order to defend his country and "help put an end to this fighting."
That, in war, we'll take down those who are posing as an active, hostile threat against our nation's capital?What could Millar POSSIBLY be trying to say about America?
And what could he POSSIBLY be trying to say about America with all the scenes showing Cap as a hero? You keep focusing on the one scene, but throughout both volumes, Cap is the good guy. I know you're very anti-killing, but just because you think he shouldn't have killed Abdul doesn't mean that Millar was trying to show him (and, by extension, America) in a negative light.
I'm a little dazed right now from my meds. Were there any hints as to what this could be? I know it's Divided We Fall, but did they reveal anything else? I'm having trouble keeping up with the C2E2 panels today.
The Liberators clearly stated their goals, not the destruction of America, merely the destruction of what they saw to be the next Roman Empire. The Liberators and their allies broke the relative monopoly the US and its Western European allies had on metahumans. They completely succeeded in terminating what would have been the next Roman Empire. The United States did not launch a retaliatory strike on any of the nations aligned with the Liberators, despite the attacking force clearly having behind it the manufacturing capacity equivalent to multiple aircraft carriers in today's world, an astronomical allocation of resources. It appeared at the end of Ultimates 2 that the Ultimates would disassociate themselves from United State control. The Liberators foot soldiers were dead in their suits anyway within 30 days, so defeating them was meaningless.
Notice that before the Liberators attack S.H.I.E.L.D. appeared to have mass copied the ability of at least one Ultimate, but after the Liberators slaughter of these soldiers, S.H.I.E.L.D. has failed to mass transplant powers to ordinary soldiers including a failed attempt at copying the Hulk's powers.
Hickman's run on Ultimates is the logical continuation of the political ramifications of the events following Ultimates 2. Hickman is returning to the depiction of the US in the followup to Ultimates 2, which was actually released before Ultimates 2 #13, which showed a completely devastated nation.
To not understand that the United States lost to the Liberators in Ultimates 2 is to not understand Hickman's current story.
I really hate crossover events with tie-in books and miniseries and whatnot. I'm really glad that Divided We Fall is 3 parallel stories. I also hope this event finally gives the Ultimates a solid footing. Although I've really enjoyed it so far the Ultimates, imo, is a little too sporradic. The only constant is really the Children and the book jumps from hero to hero without lingering on one or the other for too long. It doesn't feel as if the Ultimates has its cast of characters figured out yet since the plot is very much the dirving force of the book. Hopefully Cap's return will solidify this book. or whatever....
Pretending the United States won anything at the end of Ultimates 2 merely robs fandom of realizing the brilliance of Hickman's work which restores the politics, restores the new status quo that should have existed after Ultimates 2. It seems clear Hickman plans to deliver a blow to the Ultimate United States from which it cannot recover for quite some (comics) time. All the elements Millar had set up have returned, the overreach, the underestimation of those upon whom the United States would assert its authority, strident militarism leading to a catastrophe for the nation. There is apparently even going to be an equivalent to Cap and Iron Man fighting some sort of AI animated by the spirit of a dead villain among the ruins of the nation as in the followup to Ultimates 2. It's all coming back, only better.