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    Quote Originally Posted by motherofpearl1 View Post
    And whatever happened to the Captain America who championed freedoms in Civil War?
    This is the biggest problem that I have with this whole thing. NOW Cap is willing to set aside personal liberty in favor of common safety?
    "You know, every now and then Summers, I remember why you're in charge."-Wolverine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Movieartman View Post
    yeah.......... cus he has aways been bad to foreigners
    example of your falseness................ in cap theater of war - cap risk his own life to personaly return a injured german soldier to his platoon so the guy could get medical treatment as caps unit had no medic. yeah he is a real bastard
    Falseness? LOL, OK. Cap hates defectors. Utopia seceded from the US and formed it's own sovereign nation. Cap declared war on Utopia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    DAMNIT.
    Actually, it is. And actually, Hope may not even wind up being it's host. On top of the fact, that just because she's "off planet" would not stop the Phoenix from finding her. The Avengers have no experience dealing with the Phoenix. And the Phoenix will arrive regardless of where it's host is. Since there will still be comics published after this, we all know, whatever happens the bird isn't wiping them all out of existence.
    the point of getting her off planet isnt that the bird wont find her, its that the bird WONT LAND ON EARTH ITSELF thats what matters! the bird can take hope as its host on pluto for all we care, as long is its not on earth burning people!, and of course there will be comics after this and earth wont actualy end but the chracters dont know that! there acting as they should to prevent a possible doomsday entity from making contact with the earth itself!
    i dont think there way they went about it was the best choice but there motovation to keep the bird off earth at all cost is what is spot on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Movieartman View Post
    the point of getting her off planet isnt that the bird wont find her, its that the bird WONT LAND ON EARTH ITSELF thats what matters! the bird can take hope as its host on pluto for all we care, as long is its not on earth burning people!, and of course there will be comics after this and earth wont actualy end but the chracters dont know that! there acting as they should to prevent a possible doomsday entity from making contact with the earth itself!
    i dont think there way they went about it was the best choice but there motovation to keep the bird off earth at all cost is what is spot on!
    what a silly plan. and when phoenix takes her on pluto and comes back to earth angry to be so inconvenienced, what do you think is going to happen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AcesX1X View Post
    what a silly plan. and when phoenix takes her on pluto and comes back to earth angry to be so inconvenienced, what do you think is going to happen?
    Why are people pretending like they know what the Phoenix is going to do? No one knows, that's why both the Avengers and the X-men are stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTFSX View Post
    This is the biggest problem that I have with this whole thing. NOW Cap is willing to set aside personal liberty in favor of common safety?
    its not the same, in this case the very existance of the people is at sake, and he isnt locking up hope or taking her life away he is just taking her into protective custody so the rest of the world doesnt burn for her sake

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    Quote Originally Posted by AcesX1X View Post
    what a silly plan. and when phoenix takes her on pluto and comes back to earth angry to be so inconvenienced, what do you think is going to happen?
    Please. Jean would be too busy snorting stardust in her new teenaged body to rush back to Earth for a tantrum.

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    Under that logic they should probably send the Lights to Pluto too, the phoenix might come for them. It did refer to them as its children. Also Rachel. Send her to Pluto too.

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    This is what amuses me: What do the Avengers know about the Phoenix? I understand that they are aware of it, but they've never faced it. These are the same Avengers who couldn't pull the trigger on eliminating Scarlet Witch after she murdered a handfull of their teammates. Now they think they're the best suited team to confront the Phoenix? Do the X-Men show up and tell them how to battle Kang the Conqueror? It must be a slow day at the Avenger's Mansion for them to bother to get involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deus ex Chris View Post
    Please. Jean would be too busy snorting stardust in her new teenaged body to rush back to Earth for a tantrum.
    there is a panel from uxm #175....it's the one where mastermind tricks the x-men into thinking maddie is dark phoenix reborn. anyway, storm calls captain america on the video phone to warn the avengers about phoenix and steve is incinerated along with the rest of manhattan while storm screams out her "goddess!" line. i wish i had a scan of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AcesX1X View Post
    what a silly plan. and when phoenix takes her on pluto and comes back to earth angry to be so inconvenienced, what do you think is going to happen?
    it would at the very least allow them some time to mabye create a way to contain or devert the bird, ok in all bloody honestly What would your damn plan be that doesnt risk this planet for the sake of the mutants, please tell me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Movieartman View Post
    it would at the very least allow them some time to mabye create a way to contain or devert the bird, ok in all bloody honestly What would your damn plan be that doesnt risk this planet for the sake of the mutants, please tell me?
    If you piss of the Phoenix' host it becomes Dark Phoenix and starts eating planets. Cap is an idiot, it's now canon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AcesX1X View Post
    there is a panel from uxm #175....it's the one where mastermind tricks the x-men into thinking maddie is dark phoenix reborn. anyway, storm calls captain america on the video phone to warn the avengers about phoenix and steve is incinerated along with the rest of manhattan while storm screams out her "goddess!" line. i wish i had a scan of that.
    It's been years since I've read it. I remember it, though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joffrey View Post
    If you piss of the Phoenix' host it becomes Dark Phoenix and starts eating planets. Cap is an idiot, it's now canon.

    The Phoenix is already eating planets, thats what the whole stupid Nova thing was about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronze Badger View Post
    This is what amuses me: What do the Avengers know about the Phoenix? I understand that they are aware of it, but they've never faced it. These are the same Avengers who couldn't pull the trigger on eliminating Scarlet Witch after she murdered a handfull of their teammates. Now they think they're the best suited team to confront the Phoenix? Do the X-Men show up and tell them how to battle Kang the Conqueror? It must be a slow day at the Avenger's Mansion for them to bother to get involved.
    i truly do get that they are not the ones who are best suited to deal with the bird, but in this situation the people that are best suited for it, have no intention of atempting to stop the it! there willing to risk of the rest of the world for there own sake!

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