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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Rice View Post
    To me though, it's not "gotta eat." They're all well paid creators. This is more like "gotta buy a new golden bathtub for my dime baths" kinda money.
    I'll go out on a limb and say that no comic book writer or artist is paid golden bathtub money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Algren View Post
    I'll go out on a limb and say that no comic book writer or artist is paid golden bathtub money.
    Yeah, it's a long way from the days of Chris Claremont's private jet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Algren View Post
    I'll go out on a limb and say that no comic book writer or artist is paid golden bathtub money.
    Hyperbole, but you don't think the Before Watchmen team is getting paid crazy cash?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Rice View Post
    Hyperbole, but you don't think the Before Watchmen team is getting paid crazy cash?
    I guess it depends on what you would consider "crazy cash." Based on DC's record, I would assume they're being paid a bit less than they actually deserve.

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    Hello fellas,

    After a long hiatus, I have returned. It is good to be back. With that, a new topic:

    Loyalty vs. Principles

    Which should take precedence? Is one more important than the other? If so, why?

    The context behind the question - I had some friends. One that I knew for almost 10 years. We were really great friends, but maybe not the closest of friends. Maybe this is a factor that will play into what comes next. Anyways, without getting into too much details, the two of us had a falling out.

    Now, the fall out is over the matter of principles. In my eyes, certain aspects of friendship should come before anything. If those aspects are not honored, I feel as though the friendship is moot. In the end, it becomes a matter of respect. If your friend cannot abide by certain views that are important, then they cannot be real friends.

    But then, there's also the matter of loyalty. You did not become friends in the first place without something important and common to bring you together. The fact that a friendship lasts a while is based on those fundamental qualities that may sometimes be inexplicable. No matter the distance or time, those fundamental traits must still exist. Are those traits not worth looking back on? To be cited as reasons to remain friends?

    Just to be absolutely up front, I chose principles over loyalty. I felt they were more important in the long run. To use a quote from a movie..."If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything."

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    As someone whose had few friends in his life, and has no real ones to speak of at the moment, I believe friends are too valuable a commodity to be tossed aside on a whim.
    Principles are important, but ending a friendship over a disagreement is petty and insane. Only major betrayals should end a genuine friendship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arvandor View Post
    As someone whose had few friends in his life, and has no real ones to speak of at the moment, I believe friends are too valuable a commodity to be tossed aside on a whim.
    Principles are important, but ending a friendship over a disagreement is petty and insane. Only major betrayals should end a genuine friendship.
    If you don't mind me asking...what led you to not having any real friends at the moment?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arvandor View Post
    As someone whose had few friends in his life, and has no real ones to speak of at the moment, I believe friends are too valuable a commodity to be tossed aside on a whim.
    Principles are important, but ending a friendship over a disagreement is petty and insane. Only major betrayals should end a genuine friendship.
    I'm in the same boat, but I look at it differently. I've had few friends, and currently almost none. But I'm okay. I have a loving lady, who I consider my "best friend," but overall, I'm too selfish to be a good friend.

    I figure most of my old friends are really better off without me, and I'm not too bummed that we've grown apart. I still keep a few good aquaintences, and am not against the idea of making new friends,but I'm very cautious and cynical about the idea.

    But no matter what, principle should come first. Good friends should understand that while principles should not be set in stone, they should be respected.
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