"That's not just "one man"! That's TONY FREAKING STARK. You're intel should've warned us that he was James Bond and "Q" wrapped in the same guy!" Cobra
In this case it would be more like you tied someone up near a refrigerator and it falls on them, then you go to jail forever
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Iron Man killed Mallen.
But he obviously had no choice.
I can't believe you guys are actually counting these as Tony Stark kills.
It wasn't Stark alone that decided to shoot Hulk out into space.
And if you're blaming Tony for making Clor, you've got to blame the miners who refined the ore to make the metal parts, and the workers who made the plastics and other parts. Making a weapon doesn't mean you are directly responsible for what some yahoo does with it.
The Cap and the quality of security is just reaching. It's not like Cap doesn't parade around in the open everywhere.
Tony definitely bears some responsibility in these events, but that doesn't mean he actually killed these individuals.
And to be frank, what Tony Stark ended up doing was providing the Hulk with the single best damned experience of his life. The Hulk should be thanking Stark until he dies for what Stark did. Hulk wouldn't have liked that garden paradise. Hulk loved Sakaar. Hulk was in heaven there. Until Miek ruined it all.
Last edited by The Black Guardian; 04-10-2012 at 11:03 AM.
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An interesting debate here, but best perhaps to actually collect all of the on-panel actual killings that Stark has been forced to, or chosen to commit, trough the years.
1. Supreme Intelligence ( accomplice only)
2. Mallen Extremis ( possible self-defence)
3. MODOG ( Cold-blooded execution. No jury, no thoughts behind it, just threw him into space)
4. Gremlin ( Accident, mitigating circumstances, self-defense)
5. Wong Chu ( Some here say it was only a flesh-wound. Nonsense I say! It was shown that the Sons of Yinsen cult got ahold of his BRAIN, along with yinsens, so that's a bit more than a FLESH-wound, wouldn't you say?? I.M blew him up in retaliatory rage.)
I'll update as we go along.
I dunno about the military, but as a criminal court reporter I saw several guys who made the plan get more time than the lackeys who carried them out. Hill was basically a henchman here, using a defective living weapon Tony gave her in the exact way and circumstances he intended for it to be used. She didn't misuse it, attacking anti-registration heroes was its purpose.
I'm sure the Hulk was probably more focused on the fact that a million people he really liked had died than that Tony had given him the opportunity to have a fun year abroad, though.
Last edited by Shawn Hopkins; 04-10-2012 at 03:47 PM.
I guess I meant that his intent wasn't too kill in a moral sense, not in the legal way of looking at it. Guess it's murder then.
I miss when Iron Man was like...a hero.
I think the Armor Wars incident is a shade of grey (to me anyway) but a lot of these other incidents are just inexcusable.
Life looks better in black and white.