Postmania XVII: YES! YES! YES!

**lboinyamouf4sho** · 05-09-2012, 03:22 AM

Originally Posted by Legato

Nope. Not giving him a free pass in this one. Especially for the angle that gave us Fake Trump vs Fake Rosie

fake rosie vs fake donald was awesome. the donald was STIFF when he hit rosie in the face with fudgie!!

Originally Posted by Legato

I didn't have a problem with Vince being ECW Champ. At least it was apart of a storyline and he had the charisma to make it work, also the scenes of him acting all hardcore was funny. Also the difference between that and him winning the WWE belt is because again it was apart of the storyline, he didn't hold it for a long time, he didn't even defend it as he declared it vacant the next show, he did it to prove his"anything can happen in the WWE" point. So I don't know why you are being so upset over this

vince acting hardcore for some reason meant wearing a du-rag and saying shit like "what up G".

Originally Posted by Alex

Lbo, this is for you, i was watching some shoot dvds i found in the garage i had never seen, and one of them was bob holly, when asked about working with bob backlund (Mr.) he said the following
"Bob Backlund was probably the nicest human guy on planet earth. But that son of a bitch will stretch you in a second, he will whip your ass in about a second, i wouldn't try to mess with him."

don't fuck with Mr Backlund, even holly knows this. i think sparky plug was one of the 1st jobbers Mr Backlund went psycho on back in the days

Originally Posted by Kid Kamikaze10

He's never been abnormally bad. He's just a better tag wrestler.

Which kind of reminds me of someone...

But yeah, he's improved a bit. Or maybe he's around better workers.

i think that's it, and like you said the japanese knowing how to get the most out of guys like him. and also like you said he was never bad anyways. honestly id rather watch him than kane.

Originally Posted by XPac

I think the idea is that if he doesn't speak, there's somewhat of a mystique about him.

Golberg and early Undertaker were the same way. And that's probably how Bobby Lashley should have been handled. Some guys just shouldn't open their mouths.

and that's where they're fucking up, trying to make him a mysterious foreigner.

Originally Posted by clayholio

I know it's internet heresy, but Punk f'd up a couple of moves during that match, Baldo Bomb included. There was also a leg lariat where he didn't get any height at all. I was wondering at the time if he messed up one of his legs or not, because both were jumping moves.

I don't mind the Claw - Chris Masters eventually revived the Full Nelson! I don't know if they'll have the same patience with Tensai and the Claw, though. I kind of like the Claw into a STO as a finisher, but he needs to be smoother with the transition.

I thought he looked good against Cena, and I'm sure Punk and Tensai will have decent matches, too. I get what you're saying about him being a tweener, size-wise. They should have done a better job of establishing just how big he is. There are a few negatives working against him, but I'm still hopeful a good PPV match or two will go a long ways, and an English promo wouldn't hurt...

he never worked that gimmick(the claw) before and asking him to start now in the position he's in was kind of messed up. i think he and they are getting it better now. it was ass backwards having him lock the claw in after the opponent was TKO'd. like i said before i don't get what the rush was to get him on TV, they could've worked the kinks out of the claw thing in FCW.

**Alex** · 05-09-2012, 04:19 AM

Originally Posted by lboinyamouf4sho

he never worked that gimmick(the claw) before and asking him to start now in the position he's in was kind of messed up. i think he and they are getting it better now. it was ass backwards having him lock the claw in after the opponent was TKO'd. like i said before i don't get what the rush was to get him on TV, they could've worked the kinks out of the claw thing in FCW.

While don't think lack of experience is a problem...you grab a guys head, i did notice something.
He isn't wasn't using the claw the old way of doing it, they are trying to get over the green mist, he spits it in his hand and then rubs it in dudes face to blind them.
The problem i noticed, was on monday, when he put it on Punk, he grabbed his forehead, his palm wasn't on Punk's eyes, he's just giving dude the claw and the green shit doesn't even play it, especialy since he pinned him with it. When he did it to Cena i think it was better because he blinded him and they made a big deal of it.

It still didn't get him over, but it made more sense.

**lboinyamouf4sho** · 05-09-2012, 05:21 AM

Originally Posted by Alex

While don't think lack of experience is a problem...you grab a guys head, i did notice something.
He isn't wasn't using the claw the old way of doing it, they are trying to get over the green mist, he spits it in his hand and then rubs it in dudes face to blind them.
The problem i noticed, was on monday, when he put it on Punk, he grabbed his forehead, his palm wasn't on Punk's eyes, he's just giving dude the claw and the green shit doesn't even play it, especialy since he pinned him with it. When he did it to Cena i think it was better because he blinded him and they made a big deal of it.

It still didn't get him over, but it made more sense.

which is also kind of dumb. i don't mean he needed practice applying the hold, he needed practice working the gimmick to see what works and what doesn't in a match(like KOing a guy and then putting the claw on which actually wakes him up then puts him back to sleep).

**JDogindy** · 05-09-2012, 07:59 AM

Wanted to show this Photoshop.

**Gryphon** · 05-09-2012, 10:56 AM

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/...AW_Rating.html

The May 5th episode of WWE's AM RAW scored a 0.61 cable rating with 723,000 viewers.

- The following matches are advertised for WWE's debut event in Sao Paulo, Brazil on May 23rd:

* CM Punk vs. Chris Jericho in a No DQ Match
* John Cena vs. Dolph Ziggler
* Epico and Primo vs. R-Truth and Kofi Kingston
* The Miz vs. Zack Ryder
* JTG vs. Brodus Clay
* Alex Riley vs. David Otunga
* Kelly Kelly vs. Rosa Mendes
* Michael McGillicutty vs. Curt Hawkins

- We noted yesterday that Mason Ryan's role as Dolph Ziggler's new bodyguard was up in the air after it was tested out at RAW live events over the weekend. Mason briefly appeared in a backstage segment with Abraham Washington on RAW and a source reports that Ryan will actually be managed by Washington, unless things change between now and next week's RAW. Apparently officials decided to keep Ziggler with Vickie Guerrero and Jack Swagger.

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/...ines_More.html

- John Cena wrote the following on Twitter last night about his Dream Machines appearance on SyFy. The episode will replay this Friday night after SmackDown:

"I truly want to thank #ParkerBrothers for redefining my love for automobiles. Words cant describe that #DreamMachine"

- As noted before, WWE will return to Denver, Colorado for a RAW Supershow on July 9th. The pre-sale begins this Friday and the password is WWERAW.

- WWE's shop website has released new cutoff t-shirts for Zack Ryder, Brock Lesnar, CM Punk, The Miz, Triple H, Randy Orton, The Rock and John Cena.

- The feud between Big Show and John Laurinaitis that began on Monday's RAW Supershow has continued on Twitter this week. Laurinaitis wrote yesterday:

"Remember how I said I'd "consider" accepting @WWETheBigShow's apology for making fun of me? I'm not quite sure he's sorry enough."

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/..._FCW_News.html

- Paul Heyman was asked on Twitter if he will be bringing back his famous baseball cap now that he's returned to WWE TV. Heyman replied:

"Not a chance. I'm beautiful and I know it!"

Heyman has been re-tweeting several messages from fans and colleagues since returning on Monday, including one where a fan suggested a CM Punk vs. Brock Lesnar feud.

**Gryphon** · 05-09-2012, 10:59 AM

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/...vin_Kelly.html

Former WWE and current ROH announcer Kevin Kelly turns 45 years old today.

- Paul Heyman wrote the following on Twitter about WWE Superstars Jimmy and Jey Uso:

"Amazing seeing @WWEusos ... remember, I haven't been around for half a decade ... The last time I saw these two, they were little kids doing splashes off the top rope in the Omni before the show when I managed their Dad. Yes, that makes me old, but I recognize TALENT. @WWEusos are talented. Time for these young Samoans to eat up the competition!"

- There was a ton of discussion within WWE about Triple H accompanying Floyd Mayweather to the ring last weekend in Las Vegas. Most of the talk came from the fact that CM Punk wasn't allowed to accompany UFC fighter Chael Sonnen to the octagon a few months ago in Chicago.

Part of the reason why Punk wasn't allowed to work the UFC show was because they felt nobody would acknowledge Punk as a cornerman and it would hurt Punk's perceived star power. Triple H accompanied Mayweather to the ring and outside of wrestling sites and WWE's own website, he didn't get much mainstream attention at all.

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/...rdy_Video.html

The feud between Big Show and Intercontinental Champion Cody Rhodes is expected to end at the No Way Out pay-per-view.

- While Randy Orton vs. Brock Lesnar was discussed for the SummerSlam pay-per-view at one point, WWE officials quickly moved on and started working on the Lesnar vs. Triple H program.

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/...Punk_More.html

We noted yesterday that Paul Heyman is with WWE through August's SummerSlam pay-per-view and will be representing Brock Lesnar. Heyman is being used as WWE has Lesnar signed for a limited number of dates.

One idea discussed was to have Lesnar "sue" WWE for breach of contract and money owed, playing off the actual legal battle the two sides had years ago. This angle would include all sorts of viral campaigns, something Heyman is experienced with, that would help get it over as a legitimate issue between WWE and Lesnar.

Heyman is not expected to go on the road full-time with WWE and at last word, he was only involved in the Lesnar storyline and not working WWE creative.

While one of the reasons Heyman has returned is to work with close friend Lesnar, word is that he also returned to potentially work with CM Punk down the line. Heyman has much respect for Punk and will work with him on the upcoming Punk DVD release.

Backstage reaction to Heyman at RAW on Monday was positive. He was warmly greeted by the younger talents as some of them knew him from their time in WWE developmental.

**Gryphon** · 05-09-2012, 11:00 AM

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/..._Contract.html

As noted before, Goldust was recently released by WWE after working as a producer for the SmackDown brand. Word came out that an undisclosed incident at the April 24th SmackDown tapings in Grand Rapids, Michigan led to his contract being terminated.

F4Wonline.com now reports that the belief is that Goldust was responsible for coming up with the spot on SmackDown where Yoshi Tatsu took a double-team powerbomb finisher from Darren Young and Titus O'Neil. Tatsu landed bad and the bump was said to look even worse live than it did on TV.

Young and O'Neil were not in action on the May 4th SmackDown but did work this week's tapings, using a different finishing move.

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/...n_El_Paso.html
-- At Tuesday's SmackDown taping at the Roanoke Civic Center in Roanoke, Virginia, WWE had arena security confiscate signs referencing The Bella Twins at the door. The twin duo parted ways with the company last week.

**Vibranium** · 05-09-2012, 11:08 AM

the confiscating signs, I am of two minds about, because sports teams do it as well

**Gryphon** · 05-09-2012, 11:22 AM

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/2544...n-wwes-website

It was reported a few days ago that WWE was planning on launching a new viral campaign online.

The campaign appears to have already begun. When you go to watch certain videos on WWE.com, prior to the video you chose to play, this viral campaign video appears. It talks about "A Revolution Is Coming." No word yet on if the campaign will air on WWE television and what it is promoting. There is wide range speculation of it being a superstar return/debut or possibly details on the WWE Network launching.

Here is the viral video with different music put in by a fan