Postmania XVII: YES! YES! YES!

[Vibranium]

I know you're fucking around, but Vib takes everything serious, all the time.
This one time, i told him one the wrestlers he liked was gay, and he slept with my mom.

to be fair, I was just delivering a pizza and she didn't have any money....

[Alex]

On unrelated notes, anyone remember when nwo had like 50 members, and people stopped caring, and then they reformed the 4 horsemen and brought Flair back, and the fans went nuts...and then the nwo beat everyone up?
Good times.

[Gryphon]

On unrelated notes, anyone remember when nwo had like 50 members, and people stopped caring, and then they reformed the 4 horsemen and brought Flair back, and the fans went nuts...and then the nwo beat everyone up?
Good times.

Then WCW went out of buisness and the industry has never been the same.

[Vibranium]

On unrelated notes, anyone remember when nwo had like 50 members, and people stopped caring, and then they reformed the 4 horsemen and brought Flair back, and the fans went nuts...and then the nwo beat everyone up?
Good times.

that was horrid...utterly horrid

[Alex]

that was horrid...utterly horrid

But funny in an amazing "They don't get it" sort of way.
For all the shit we pile on WWE, have they done anything that stupid?

[Vibranium]

But funny in an amazing "They don't get it" sort of way.
For all the shit we pile on WWE, have they done anything that stupid?

I kind of saw it in that light....I mean the NWO was still hugely popular, and then you bring back what is easily the most popular stable of all time, and you job them out like 2 weeks later and you, as a fan, think to yourself "seriously, that is what you do with the 4 Horsemen?"

[Alex]

I kind of saw it in that light....I mean the NWO was still hugely popular, and then you bring back what is easily the most popular stable of all time, and you job them out like 2 weeks later and you, as a fan, think to yourself "seriously, that is what you do with the 4 Horsemen?"

I could see it justified if it was like...Flair, Arn, Mongo and Luger or some shit, but it's not like they hadn't added some workers into the group.

[Vibranium]

my favorite incarnation of the Horsement was Flair, Arn, Benoit, and Malenko

them dudes was legit scary, hell today Arn still looks like he can beat your ass

[Gryphon]

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/Perr..._Rips_TNA.html

For him, Extreme Rising is more than a wrestling company. It's symbolic. Extreme Legend Perry Saturn has returned from the brink, found sobriety, and is rising back in wrestling. Now Saturns joins James Guttman on ClubWWI.com for a 35 minute shoot that will shock and awe with its blunt honesty. Among the many topics JG and Saturn discuss are his misery while in WCW, the political games of those in power, why he split with John Kronus, disappearing from wrestling, becoming homeless, his intense drug abuse, the night the Radicalz jumped to WWE, Goldberg, Hulk Hogan, and tons more. For a larger list of topics click here.

Those who have been following Perry Saturn's return to wrestling know that he's been through the fires of hell. Returning from drug abuse and homelessness, Perry now is able to look back on his career with a new found enthusiasm. Unfortunately, the choices he made lead to the loss of some memories. As the ClubWWI.com begins, James Guttman asks Saturn about his run in WWF alongside "Moppy". The gimmick was funny, but Perry's response might be considered startling to some.

"Yeah. The people, for the most part, really enjoyed that Moppy stuff. Unfortunately, I was so high all the time, I have such a clouded memory. I don't remember most of it…All the ideas were the writers. I had no idea. Like I said, I was so stoned all the time, I'm lucky I made it to the shows ,let alone come up with anything creative. WWE has an outstanding creative staff, they come up with stuff. They try to come up with ways to get everybody over and you do or you don't. I didn't have anything to do with that creative because at the time, I really hated it too…Now, I get the humor of it. At the time, my main concern was making sure nobody knew I was high."

As Guttman points out, one of the most overlooked things about those who abuse drugs is that there is a constant fear that they could be caught in the act. It adds a level of paranoia and stress to someone who's already battling problems. Perry agrees.

"I was so standoffish. I didn't want anyone to know what was going on."

James notices how much effort Saturn put in to covering his habits in WWF at the time. Many fans assume that pre-Wellness Poilcy WWF was a place where drugs were openly done. But that couldn't be further from the truth. Despite the policy not being as solid, it still was something the company didn't tolerate. As the ClubWWI.com interview continues, Saturn explains why he made such efforts to hide it.

"If they had found out, they would have sent me to rehab. They always, for whatever reason, took care of the guys as best they could. But I didn't want to quit doing everything. I didn't want to go to rehab. I wanted to keep doing things the way I was doing them. I wasn't a big drinker. So when you drink a lot on top of doing drugs, that's really hard to hide that. I think that's what helped me keep mine hidden was that I just did the opiates, which was easier for me to hide."

Perry goes on to talk about the time he thought Dean Malenko, Chris Benoit, and Jim Ross were trying to trick him into an intervention, nearly killing himself accidentally, and much more. Of course, the names Chris Benoit, Dean Malenko, and Eddie Guerrero are almost always spoken with Perry Saturn. The four Radicalz were famous for their friendship. Perry shares his personal feeling with ClubWWI.com members about each person in the group. When James Guttman gets to Chris, Saturn talks about the man he knew and the shock over what he did.

"All the time I'd been with Chris, I honestly don't think I've seen him mad. I'm sure he'd been upset, but mad? I've been mad where they've had to grab me and calm me down mad. Eddie's been so mad that I've seen Eddie throw a f****ing pool cue across a bar for just about no reason. I've seen Dean twice scream at somebody. I've never seen Chris do that. All those times I went out every night partying - because that's what I did - and on occasion I was able to drag these guys out with me. Chris told me on day one - and it never changed - that he didn't cheat on Nancy. Chris was a faithful husband and loving father. I have no idea what happened. I could never explain it and it blows my mind - the whole thing."

Perry speaks in-depth about the night he and his friends jumped to the WWF from WCW and the misconceptions about the move. He also speaks out about his misery in WCW, being unhappy with his decision to go there, how the drug usage for many kicked up a notch while in WCW, management's adversarial relationship with wrestlers, top guys holding mid-carders down, and more. After listening to all that during the ClubWWI.com discussion, Guttman asks if Saturn is surprised that those who were in WCW management still find work years later. Without mentioning TNA owner Dixie Carter or TNA itself by name, JG asks and Perry lets them have it.

"It's amazing. The 'Predictability of Stupidity' is unbelievable. To believe that someone could see what they did (in WCW) and use their own money to give these people another chance to do it again. Tell me TNA is going to be a successful business. That's hard to believe. Eventually that woman's going to run out of money and you have to think someone else will give them the same opportunity. Funniest thing I've seen in a long time was one of Vince Russo's Tweets, obviously after they let him go. He said he was sure glad to see the lucrative deal TNA signed with Hulk Hogan especially since Hogan's only appearances in TNA are during his Rent-a-Center ads. Nobody should ever get paid to stay home."

It's that work ethic that lead to some of Perry's memorable moments in ECW. Now, years later, his career is coming full circle. Underneath the "Extreme Rising" banner (ExtremeReunion.net), Saturn is returning to his roots and working for a company that has the ECW feel. James mentions Perry's appearance on June 30th with the group and how it's offering the fans a chance to do something they haven't been able to do in over a decade - get the ECW feel at a live event. Saturn agrees and tells ClubWWI what made ECW so special…and how Extreme Rising has that same asset.

"The ECW fans are totally different than any other fans. So it's wicked cool. I'm at Extreme Rising on the 30th this month. The show on the 29th is going to be outstanding too…I'm looking forward to it. I'm looking forward to my match more than any other match in a long time. I have no idea who I'm working with or anything, I'm just glad to be in front of the ECW fans again, you know…In ECW and WWE - both places - the guys worked as hard as they could. The difference was that that ECW fans made the whole experience different. They were special, man. They never had fans like that anywhere else."

Remember, Perry Saturn is just one of over 300 top wrestling stars you can hear when you join ClubWWI.com. For up to the minute information on World Wrestling Insanity, follow us on Twitter @ClubWWI and like us on Facebook at Facebook.com/WorldWrestlingInsanity

[Gryphon]

In a case of interesting timing, one day after it was revealed that TNA is taking legal action against Scott Steiner for his remarks against the company, WWE has added Scott Steiner to the alumni section of the company website. Joey Styles posted the following on Twitter, noting that he had been added to the alumni section, but refused to link to Steiner's Twitter page… Welcome Scott Steiner to WWE dotcom! (OMG! There is no way in hell that I am linking to his profane Twitter page!)

From some wrestling site I came across




STEINER FOR RAW GM

The he can also ring announce and every night can be like this.

[Alex]

Speaking of extreme rising, they put this up

Really classy including footage of Sabu in the hospital, i hope this falls on it's ass.

[clayholio]

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/...ing_Event.html

California-based wrestler Buggy Nova has apparently signed a developmental contract with WWE as she made her Florida Championship Wrestling debut at Wednesday's Summer Slamarama event in Orlando, Florida, according to multiple attendees.

Buggy, who possesses an "alternative" look, participated in a Diva swimsuit competition as well as a dancing contest. Byron Saxton emceed the competitions and announced her as Natalie—her real name.

Buggy was first evaluated by WWE officials at the January 16 Raw SuperShow in Anaheim, California. She was invited to the following day's SmackDown taping in Las Vegas, Nevada, where she wrestled AJ in a tryout match before company brass. She was evaluated the following month at a SmackDown taping in Fresno, California, where she once again faced AJ in a private match.

Buggy is 22-years-old and billed at 5'8" and 135 pounds. Trained under the Ballard Brothers, she has been wrestling on the independent circuit since 2009.


http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/...ruth_Kofi.html

- A new idea from Vince McMahon is to have the RAW announcers do sound effects to make it seem like they are trying to hold back laughter during what are supposed to be comedy segments.

It's okay just to say that she looks like a Suicide Girl.



And that's not a new idea from Vince, Michael Cole's been doing that for quite a while already.

STEINER FOR RAW GM

The he can also ring announce and every night can be like this.

Steiner can count on my vote.

[Gryphon]

bleh, fine.
Lords of pain already posted all the stuff though!
Cept the match ratings, and that's not exciting, he didn't like the ppv. And no one did moves that i didn't know the names of this time, but ill send it.

Interesting observation he has about Big E Langston. However, it isnt that he is not ready but rather that he has regressed in what he does and switched to another style as well. His earlier matches in fcw were more athletic but now he wrestles more as a big man type.

[Legato]

In a case of interesting timing, one day after it was revealed that TNA is taking legal action against Scott Steiner for his remarks against the company, WWE has added Scott Steiner to the alumni section of the company website. Joey Styles posted the following on Twitter, noting that he had been added to the alumni section, but refused to link to Steiner's Twitter page… Welcome Scott Steiner to WWE dotcom! (OMG! There is no way in hell that I am linking to his profane Twitter page!)

From some wrestling site I came across




STEINER FOR RAW GM

The he can also ring announce and every night can be like this.

I second him replacing Ace

[Alex]

Interesting observation he has about Big E Langston. However, it isnt that he is not ready but rather that he has regressed in what he does and switched to another style as well. His earlier matches in fcw were more athletic but now he wrestles more as a big man type.

I just loved how pissed he was about sin cara.