Postmania XVII: YES! YES! YES!

[KiFF86]

To be fair, you do know wins and losses don't matter right? Hell, Jericho couldn't get booked on your local promotion he's too busy putting people over if it was true.

But let me get this right..... You don't want Ziggler to job to the Funk.... but you want him to job to Ryback? WTF man, I know you love your hate of Zeke and Mason Ryan. But RVGoldberg really?

[Young Avenger]

Ryback has the potential to not suck. Zeke and Mason Ryan haven't improved at all since being called up.

[Alex]

To be fair, you do know wins and losses don't matter right? Hell, Jericho couldn't get booked on your local promotion he's too busy putting people over if it was true.

But let me get this right..... You don't want Ziggler to job to the Funk.... but you want him to job to Ryback? WTF man, I know you love your hate of Zeke and Mason Ryan. But RVGoldberg really?

Well he can't really od much with Brodus, i just think he can do more with Ryback.
I don't mind ziggler losing, he has a match with Orton a while ago on Raw, everyone knew he was going to lose, but it was an awesome match. I just want to see him lose a good match, and i think he might be more capable of having a good match with Ryback.
Here's another problem unrelated to Ziggler.
Lord Tensai has squashed guys, and beat Cena, and he's not over at all.
Brodus comes out and squashes someone every week, he is less over every week.
Ryback i haven't made a decision on, the ppv crowd didn't like him but it was a ppv crowd in chicago, id have to see him have another match to judge, but these really quick squashes just aren't getting anyone over.
Let them having a wrestling match and see if it helps, because squashes aren't helping, and i can think of few heels they are willing to job out who can give a guy a better match than Ziggler.

[Alex]

Ryback has the potential to not suck. Zeke and Mason Ryan haven't improved at all since being called up.

Theres also that, Mason Ryan was worse than Zeke for the record.

[KiFF86]

Ryback/Ziggler would be the same match he has been having except with Ziggle selling his ass off.

I just want Skip Sheffield and Michael Tarver- Prison Taffy tag team. God I miss early Nexus.

[Alex]

Ryback/Ziggler would be the same match he has been having except with Ziggle selling his ass off.

I just want Skip Sheffield and Michael Tarver- Prison Taffy tag team. God I miss early Nexus.

No, thats what im saying, squashing isn't working on 3 guys right now, stop the straight squash, make him wrestle.
And put him in with Ziggler because he's so good.

[KiFF86]

In the midst of the arguing of the night can we all come to one agreement

Cody Rhodes is fucking awesome.

[Alex]

In the midst of the arguing of the night can we all come to one agreement

Cody Rhodes is fucking awesome.

Another guy who should be working with someone other than the guy he's working with so he can show what he can do.

[Alex]

In the midst of the arguing of the night can we all come to one agreement

Cody Rhodes is fucking awesome.

Btw, you know we haven't even really been arguing half this time?
I've just been explaining what i'm saying every other post.

[KiFF86]

Another guy who should be working with someone other than the guy he's working with so he can show what he can do.

I don't know Cody has had some of the most creative matches in a long time. If he can make us go "That table match with Big Show was pretty smart." I think he has done all he ever needed to do. lol. Plus he took a spear to the dick at Mania and hell that's about as funny as it gets...

[Alex]

I don't know Cody has had some of the most creative matches in a long time. If he can make us go "That table match with Big Show was pretty smart." I think he has done all he ever needed to do. lol. Plus he took a spear to the dick at Mania and hell that's about as funny as it gets...

He didn't even beat show, Show's big fat ass beat show.
I was hoping show would win so cody could wrestle someone else, i hate this feud.

[Alex]

Is it too much to ask the big giant guys only wrestle other big giant guys, or normal sized guys who can pick up the giants?
I know im working off 1980s booking standards here, but i like the spot where the giant gets body slammed.

[lboinyamouf4sho]

I figured it out, Vince is trying to be as different from UFC as possible.
After building a guy up huge, he made sure the guy lost, because that's how you make the most money with a guy.

i actually thought it was very much like his 1st UFC match, big hype match against company golden boy where he dominates and then loses.

http://www.wrestling-news.net/davey-...t-junior/9486/

New Japan Pro Wrestling announced today that Ring of Honor World Champion Davey Richards had been involved in a traffic accident in America and as a result would be unable to compete at tomorrow’s Dontaku event.

As a result, as Richards and Rocky Romero were the tag team champions and scheduled to defend their IWGP Junior Tag Team Championships the company have had to vacate the titles.

There is no word on how this will affect the Ring of Honor Border Wars iPPV on May 12th as Richards is currently scheduled to defend his ROH World Championship against Kevin Steen.

The current card is below:

- Strongman, Captain New Japan and Tama Tonga vs. YOSHI-HASHI, Jado and Tomohiro Ishii.

- Ryusuke Taguchi and KUSHIDA vs. TAKA Michinoku and Taichi.

- Jushin Thunder Liger and Tiger Mask IV vs. Rocky Romero and Gedo.

- IWGP Junior Heavyweight Championship Match: Prince Devitt (c) vs. Low Ki.

- IWGP Tag Team Championship Match: Hiroyoshi Tenzan and Satoshi Kojima (c) vs. Toru Yano and Takashi Iizuka.

- Togi Makabe and Yuji Nagata vs. Minoru Suzuki and Yoshihiro Takayama.

- Karl Anderson vs. Shinsuke Nakamura.

- Hiroshi Tanahashi and Tetsuya Naito vs. Masato Tanaka and Yujiro Takahashi.

- IWGP Championship Match: Kazuchika Okada (c) vs. Hirooki Goto.

2nd 1/2 looks hot as hell.

Something funny from figure four weekly
"The Bellas are finished up with WWE for the time being. Their contracts were coming due and they opted to leave to pursue dates on the convention circuit. For the time being, there is a good chance they'll make more money doing that than they would in WWE as regulars on TV. In six months, that's a different story. The plan was for Nikki to win the Diva's title, then Kharma would return to TV and destroy both of them to play off a storyline from over a year ago when the Bellas heckled her after she revealed that she was pregnant. What happened was, word got out about the plans and so WWE dropped the idea and switched it up so that the returning Layla won the title from Nikki on PPV. WWE was so deep in the bubble that on the PPV Sunday they had Eve Torres tell them, "Don't worry, it's not Kharma!" even though there was absolutely nothing done on television that would have led any average fan to think that it would be Kharma, given she's only had one appearance (Royal Rumble) in the last year. So basically, instead of capping off a legitimate year-long storyline (not that it was played up at all in the past year, but still), because the word got out they switched it to something that had nothing to do with anything, and worse, didn't get over at all. "

I really think we as internet fans need to stop talking about rumors of finishes, because it leads to them changing it to a worse finish.

kind sounds like they're just covering their asses after getting something wrong. kharma coming back to defeat bella was something basically any smark could've predicted by looking at the signs in front of them.

Which brings my point in WWE making even their main title meaningless. For instance lets take this whole angle between Cena and Ace. Now correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Punk supposed to be the new Austin? Also whatever happened to Ace's promise in making Punk's life a living hell? That last segment to me read like it probably should have been meant for Punk instead of Cena. Given the whole Punk vs Ace build up him announcing that he wants to face Punk would have been a better pay off. Especially since it took what a month for WWE to turn Cena into a Austin wannabe and they have been doing Punk vs Ace for quite awhile now

WTF?? cena hasn't changed he's just fighting different people. i think the problem with punk/ace was punk was just too much of a dick for the role. people started to feel sorry for big johnny.

Lesnar/Cena got 4 1/2

WOW, otoh FOCK DA MELTZ. i thought the match was just OK. i would like to give it another watch not on a shitty stream where i can hear the crowd reactions.

Question for lbo or any of you guys that know lucha to what this means
"On the broadcast of Raw on 4/30 in Mexico, they announced Sin Cara would be returning for the May shows. He was doing media interviews to promote Memorial Day weekend shows in Hermosillo, Aguascalientes and Guadalajara, saying he would be returning by then, and may be on television sooner than that. He said he expects things to go a lot better for him. He said it was difficult learning to work WWE style and actually mentioned having to work the other side (Mexico is the only country that works the right side predominately) was much harder than one would think. But he said he’s mentally now natural with it. "
Work the right side? Like...of the body?
I've honestly never noticed that they focus on a particular side of the body in WWE.

yeah it's mostly work the left. in japan they work either, mexico is the right. it's not just limb work either BTW.

He was fine the next day though, beating couldn't have been that bad.
BTW, according to WWE.com, HHH arm isn't broken either, Brock sucks balls at injuring people.

his arm was in a sling and he couldn't use it because "all the muscles in it were strained"

Well, they also reminded you he wasn't a main eventer by beating him 3 times in the same match.

lucky for him he didn't face cena or he would've got berried.

Really? When did you get to the inter workings of the WWE? As far as I can tell and have read in interviews, everyone there loves him. He's great at his job and makes everyone look great. Like I said about the RR match, all it takes is about two weeks. The audience attention span isn't that long, especially for mid-card guys. All he would have to do is have a few competitive matches and be allowed to speak and he would be right back up there.

But I forgot, we have to have a negative outlook on things because Vince=Bad, on the net.

are you saying all it took was 2 weeks for dolph to become a legit contender?? if so i have to strongly disagree as i don't think anybody believed dolph had a chance in hell of winning that match at the rumble.

Dude.... How long was Mark Henry a jobber? You honestly believe Dolph is going to be jobber for the rest of his career? Do you even know why he does the jobs? Cause he makes everyone look good; He made Ryder look like a million bucks.

I get it. You wanna focus on the here and now and how bad it is and think it won't get better for him. I just choose to think it will

sadly mizark is back to doing jobs.

i do agree with you though about people being too quick to cry burial when one of their faves loses a match.

Not to argue the point but, he was just handed Nexus (Not the best) but was doing amazing promos leading up to the "shoot" promo. He resigned way before the promo telling them the only way he would resign is if he could go full blast and they let him, because he had always been over with whatever he did. Were they surprised with how big it got. Yeah, but they knew he was going to be a top guy. You don't get to be a triple crown winner and multiple time world champ if they don't have faith in you.

i'm with you here, they wouldn't have let punk cut that shoot promo if they didn't see anything in him.

Do i have to highlight it or something?
For the third time now, it doesn't mean anything in the long run.
That doesn't make him any less of a jobber.

how can you say it doesn't mean anything in the long run after saying being a jobber will eventually lead to him not trying anymore and then his release from the company??

I ask myself that same question concerning Roode. His original hairstyle fits the asshole heel persona he's carrying better

maybe he just got tired of it. as much as i loved bobby's hair he had it like that for a LONG ASS TIME.

Jack Swagger's hair is going to be Mitt Romney's VP

swaggers hair is top 5 in north america now that bobby cut his hair.

To be fair, you do know wins and losses don't matter right? Hell, Jericho couldn't get booked on your local promotion he's too busy putting people over if it was true.

But let me get this right..... You don't want Ziggler to job to the Funk.... but you want him to job to Ryback? WTF man, I know you love your hate of Zeke and Mason Ryan. But RVGoldberg really?

i don't think that's completely true and jericho is a perfect xample of why. a win over jericho really didn't mean shit anymore by the end of his last run. getting there again with this one.

In the midst of the arguing of the night can we all come to one agreement

Cody Rhodes is fucking awesome.

i think cody has been a bore for months now, he needs one of his gimmicks back or a new one.

[Alex]

how can you say it doesn't mean anything in the long run after saying being a jobber will eventually lead to him not trying anymore and then his release from the company??

Read more careful dude, i said if they kept him a jobber for another year or two he would give up, and they wouldn't release him until he gave up, i don't think he will still be jobbing to brodus in a year, rosters too thin.

[KiFF86]

i think cody has been a bore for months now, he needs one of his gimmicks back or a new one.

Well I don't think I like you anymore.




*Clutches picture of Cody Rhodes* He didn't mean it..... He didn't mean it sweet prince.