Wonder Woman #11 Cover + Solicit

[Maximum Impact]

Cannibalized is the proper word, you're a very good example of why you cant wear anything red/black, like Wagners Ride of the Valkyries or collect nazi stuff without some jerk labeling you a nazi.
Also Rob Halford (who's actually gay), wore leather to look tough and to match the style of old school biker gangs that was also shared by segments of the gay community.
Which is kinda funny because heavy metal is about as SPARTA! as you can get in music and everyone thought Halford was metal musics answer to Leonidas and Hercules, until 1998.

Oh, that was you? How is cannibalized the right word when that would mean they feed on themselves?

I wear red and black all the time because it's a strong color combination and no one thinks it's Nazi inspired.

[MajorHoy]

Mmmmmmh, Nazi Wonder Woman


Hot.
Azzarello, do a mini about this!

There are some sick, sick, people on these forums!

Nah, not really. Hot looking Nazi women fantasies aren't necessarily sick . . . especially depending on what the outcome is. And they make fun villains, too.

. . . Besides, nazi chic is sexy anyway and should be encouraged to be worn by the female population.

Then again, . . .

[Outside_85]

Oh, that was you? How is cannibalized the right word when that would mean they feed on themselves?

I wear red and black all the time because it's a strong color combination and no one thinks it's Nazi inspired.

Then why does that WW cover makes you think she is?

[Dr. Hurt]

I think you misunderstood, cave paintings are more 'advanced' than greek art.

Did greek and rennaissance art bully you during high school? Whatever, i bet you've never been to a museum about either. I'm suggesting a few of the museums i've been. If you ever find yourself in Italy, visit the Vatican in Rome, the Uffizi in Florence, and then there's the archeological museum and the Acropolis museum in Athens.

Read about this kind of art, or visit a museum before you start talking about it.


Damn why did i even engage in this conversation with you? In half of your posts you seem to be trolling. I'm being trolled right now arent i? I mean who the hell disses Da Vinci, Michelangelo, Raphael or Caravaggio?

[Outside_85]

Did greek and rennaissance art bully you during high school? Whatever, i bet you've never been to a museum about either. I'm suggesting a few of the museums i've been. If you ever find yourself in Italy, visit the Vatican in Rome, the Uffizi in Florence, and then there's the archeological museum and the Acropolis museum in Athens.

Read about this kind of art, or visit a museum before you start talking about it.


Damn why did i even engage in this conversation with you? In half of your posts you seem to be trolling. I'm being trolled right now arent i? I mean who the hell disses Da Vinci, Michelangelo, Raphael or Caravaggio?

A Liefeld worshipper!

[Maximum Impact]

Then why does that WW cover makes you think she is?

It's the context in which it's presented, but her costume's silhouette, boots, collar and armband are all reminiscent of Warrior Woman.

[Reginleif]

Did greek and rennaissance art bully you during high school? Whatever, i bet you've never been to a museum about either. I'm suggesting a few of the museums i've been. If you ever find yourself in Italy, visit the Vatican in Rome, the Uffizi in Florence, and then there's the archeological museum and the Acropolis museum in Athens.

Read about this kind of art, or visit a museum before you start talking about it.


Damn why did i even engage in this conversation with you? In half of your posts you seem to be trolling. I'm being trolled right now arent i? I mean who the hell disses Da Vinci, Michelangelo, Raphael or Caravaggio?

I am well versed in Western art, having attended the high school renown for its art program and am currently seeking a B.A. in the humanities. I am sincere when I say, most of the so called 'master pieces' of the Western canon are inferior products. Personally though I would much rather travel to Mali than Italy and bear witness to the great mud brick madras's of Timbuktu and Djenne, unfortunately that area has recently been taken over by rebels

[Outside_85]

It's the context in which it's presented, but her costume's silhouette, boots, collar and armband are all reminiscent of Warrior Woman.

And what connection is there between Zeus' throne to Nazism?
(Btw, you really are grasping at straws if you have to drag up a character most people have never heard of to make your point)

[slvn]

By definition, they are.

Don't you see the irony, though? You're saying that fascists are people who insist on "one single interpretation." Yet you're insisting on "one single definition" of the very concept of art. You're inadvertently calling yourself a fascist.

I get that you're sincere, and of course it's fine that you don't like Western classical art. It's sounds like you have had some good teachers who have taught you to appreciate postmodern art and non-Western art. But to assume that any culture's kind of art--even classical Western art-- inferior on some kind of universal scale is to engage in the kind of absolutism for which you criticize the classical artists. You (or any one person) can't really know everything classical art has meant to all of its creators and viewers, so maybe you shouldn't assume that the appeals and effects of this kind of art are always and only fascist.

[CaptMagellan]

It's the context in which it's presented, but her costume's silhouette, boots, collar and armband are all reminiscent of Warrior Woman.

The context is her sitting on a Greek God's throne with a Greek Goddess and mother of Zeus' child... it's not like anyone is goosestepping.

This is why I probably don't belong on these forums.... I kept seeing arguments about the boots being "Nazi" boots - to which I'm thinking "I don't get it...No Nazi ever wore pointed boots like that"... but of course I'm thinking real life while the detractors are thinking an obscure comic character.


As for Red and Black color scheme... I think both Canadian Mountie and Blue Oyster Cult before I think Nazi.

The metal armband reminds me of ancient European warrior cultures and the collar of fetishism.

But Nazi... only if that's what you're looking for.

[Maximum Impact]

And what connection is there between Zeus' throne to Nazism?
(Btw, you really are grasping at straws if you have to drag up a character most people have never heard of to make your point)

Have you not been paying attention? I didn't bring up Warrior Woman, I just agreed with the similarities...and that lopsided eagle throne doesn't help matters any.

[Imraith Nimphais]

A Liefeld worshipper!

LOLOLOLOLOLLOLLOLOLLOLLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. ..

[CaptMagellan]

Regarding the Eagle symbol... while I can see a strong similarity between Chiang's design and the Roman eagle... considering the National Socialist symbol most commonly had spread wings (as did most interpretations of the U.S. eagle) I still think it's a stretch to say Eagle = Nazi... especially considering how many cultures have similar eagle designs, including some Greek Urns.

Hell, if you flip the direction of the beak, Chiang's version looks more like the seal for New Mexico than most Nazi iconography. Not to mention how close it looks to the eagle symbol of St. John.

[Maximum Impact]

Regarding the Eagle symbol... while I can see a strong similarity between Chiang's design and the Roman eagle... considering the National Socialist symbol most commonly had spread wings (as did most interpretations of the U.S. eagle) I still think it's a stretch to say Eagle = Nazi... especially considering how many cultures have similar eagle designs, including some Greek Urns.

Hell, if you flip the direction of the beak, Chiang's version looks more like the seal for New Mexico than most Nazi iconography. Not to mention how close it looks to the eagle symbol of St. John.

If you don't see it that's fine. We're all here giving our opinions and I've given mine. I'm not trying to force the issue or change your mind, we can agree to disagree.

[Mr. Holmes]

Whoever Godwin is, he's brilliant.