Marvel tops March sales charts behind AvX

[Sabrewulf]

All seriousness, congrats to Marvel, I just read A vs X #0 & 1 and both were well done, and have me excited for what's to come.

Like that wasn't a given with all the incentives. Didn't really sell as well as Justice League #1 though did it. lol.

I expect it will probably fall to AvX #0 numbers by issue 6 if not worse. Maybe even sell less than Justice League by then. Who knows.

Im surprised how well Avengers Assembled did. Plus Age of Apocalypse did about 57k. Although I think we will see a hefty drop on both of these by issue 2. I imagine retailers were expecting a better sell through from Avengers Assemble.

[Rasputin9977]

Which is a.... SALES... ranking...

Is this the point where people say "facepalm," or some dumb-ass crap like that?

When you get a mega hyped issue on there like the new 52 or AvX then yes its a sales figure. but when you consistently see the same book month after month thwn its because the quality of the book(s) are keeping it up there. now I'm not a business owner but i would thonk a comapny would rather see consistency over random sales bumps.

[Sabrewulf]

Yeah let's not pretend DC doesn't use the deep discounts to inflate pre orders, majority of their New 52 were pre ordered by the offer of returnability and deep discounts. The upcoming Before Watchmen is insanely discounted. Heck on dcbservice.com you can get the first 4 #1's of the first launched mini series all 4 titles for 3.99!!! How insane must the discount be for the retailer to offer 4 comics for the price of 1?

From what I saw on Wednesday the demand for A vs X #1 was there, as my local retailer had a few calls in the short time I chatted with him asking if he still had copies as other stores in the area were sold out.

There seems to be some kind of discount going on with at least Aquman. Not sure what though. I though that had all ended. Can;t see how it would benefit DC, no store is going to order more of an #7 than they need. Seems pointless.

[Sabrewulf]

When you get a mega hyped issue on there like the new 52 or AvX then yes its a sales figure. but when you consistently see the same book month after month thwn its because the quality of the book(s) are keeping it up there. now I'm not a business owner but i would thonk a comapny would rather see consistency over random sales bumps.

I bet the same people that are dancing about over this are the same ones that were running with the DC is riding the wave of an event for the last 6 months. Lol

[SpideyCzar]

Like that wasn't a given with all the incentives. Didn't really sell as well as Justice League #1 though did it. lol.

I expect it will probably fall to AvX #0 numbers by issue 6 if not worse. Maybe even sell less than Justice League by then. Who knows.

Im surprised how well Avengers Assembled did. Plus Age of Apocalypse did about 57k. Although I think we will see a hefty drop on both of these by issue 2. I imagine retailers were expecting a better sell through from Avengers Assemble.

Well JL had Jim Lee, dude himself would make a comic written by Chuck Austen sell a 100k copies. And those are pre orders I still see plenty of copies of JL clogging up shelf space.

I agree about Avengers Assemble, I think by #6 it'll be at a much lower level since the first 3 issues have variant covers. Heck #1 had almost as many variants as A vs X #1. I don't think we are going to see any comic in the forseaable future be as ordered heavily as JL #1.

[Dog]

now I'm not a business owner but i would thonk a comapny would rather see consistency over random sales bumps.

And several months after the DC relaunch, Marvel is back to making more money than DC. Consistency, right?

[Sabrewulf]

Well JL had Jim Lee, dude himself would make a comic written by Chuck Austen sell a 100k copies. And those are pre orders I still see plenty of copies of JL clogging up shelf space.

I agree about Avengers Assemble, I think by #6 it'll be at a much lower level since the first 3 issues have variant covers. Heck #1 had almost as many variants as A vs X #1. I don't think we are going to see any comic in the forseaable future be as ordered heavily as JL #1.

I would grab those JL copies they went to 6th print didnt they?????

If we are talking after#1 then I dunno mate, I guess the fact it has been pretty much level for the past few months suggests that the retailers must know what they can sell by now.

Im honestly surprised AVX didnt sell better than JL with Marvel pulling out pretty much every trick in the book. Maybe it is the Jim Lee factor. I guess we will see if sales drop over next month. I actually doubt it though. It wasn't as good but I loved Shazam.

AOA surprised me but this is where these #1's seem to land at the mo, like Scarlet Spider and Winter Soldier.

[Sabrewulf]

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[Rasputin9977]

And several months after the DC relaunch, Marvel is back to making more money than DC. Consistency, right?

Well yes when you flood a market then you will sell more than your competitors. You think McDonalds sells more burgers than InNOut burgers because of their quality or because there are more McDonalds restaurants?

[USERNAME TAKEN]

What was the discount?

Not sure about the exact percentage but I can remember when Marvel sent their message to the retailers that there was a discount for certain amount of orders.

[Dog]

Well yes when you flood a market then you will sell more than your competitors. You think McDonalds sells more burgers than InNOut burgers because of their quality or because there are more McDonalds restaurants?

How many books did Marvel put out in March compared to DC? I'm willing to bet it's fairly comparable. Show us the numbers.

Also, are you trying to argue that InNOut Burger is more successful than McDonald's?

[Sabrewulf]

Interestingly nobody seems to have had faith in Nocenti increasing sales on Green Arrow.

What happened to Secret Avengers #24 was it half shipped by accident. I heard people saying that didnt expect it to be out.

I doubt New Mutants, Punisher, Hulk, JIM and Cap and..... are long for this world. Althogh maybe JIM will do well in tpb.

Defenders wont reach #12 at this rate.

Scarlet Spider is levelling out already which is good.

Get it's wait and see which of the above Winter Soldier follows.

Hell Iron Man might not make another 12 issues if they leave Fraction it. Those sales are dreadful. So I bet them put him on Avengers.

Most DC titles still int eh top 100 seem to be levelling in. So that does deserve a well done DC. Seriously!!!!! That is an achievment. Retaining interest.

[USERNAME TAKEN]

I would grab those JL copies they went to 6th print didnt they?????

If we are talking after#1 then I dunno mate, I guess the fact it has been pretty much level for the past few months suggests that the retailers must know what they can sell by now.

Im honestly surprised AVX didnt sell better than JL with Marvel pulling out pretty much every trick in the book. Maybe it is the Jim Lee factor. I guess we will see if sales drop over next month. I actually doubt it though. It wasn't as good but I loved Shazam.

AOA surprised me but this is where these #1's seem to land at the mo, like Scarlet Spider and Winter Soldier.

How do you know AVX 1 didnt sell more than JL 1? Its very likely that AVX 1 will appear in April (again).

Anyway, the shine of DCs re-boot is over and everything is coming back down to normal. The only question I have is what DC will do if their total sales fall below pre nu52 levels.

[USERNAME TAKEN]

Interestingly nobody seems to have had faith in Nocenti increasing sales on Green Arrow.

What happened to Secret Avengers #24 was it half shipped by accident. I heard people saying that didnt expect it to be out.

I doubt New Mutants, Punisher, Hulk, JIM and Cap and..... are long for this world. Althogh maybe JIM will do well in tpb.

Defenders wont reach #12 at this rate.

Scarlet Spider is levelling out already which is good.

Get it's wait and see which of the above Winter Soldier follows.

Hell Iron Man might not make another 12 issues if they leave Fraction it. Those sales are dreadful. So I bet them put him on Avengers.

Most DC titles still int eh top 100 seem to be levelling in. So that does deserve a well done DC. Seriously!!!!! That is an achievment. Retaining interest.

How many titles do DC have in the top 100 compared to when the nu52 launched? Considering that most of their titles are discounted or returnable, then what we are looking at is hard fail.

DC was owned in March, the sooner we all accept that the better.

[SpideyCzar]

I would grab those JL copies they went to 6th print didnt they?????

If we are talking after#1 then I dunno mate, I guess the fact it has been pretty much level for the past few months suggests that the retailers must know what they can sell by now.

Im honestly surprised AVX didnt sell better than JL with Marvel pulling out pretty much every trick in the book. Maybe it is the Jim Lee factor. I guess we will see if sales drop over next month. I actually doubt it though. It wasn't as good but I loved Shazam.

AOA surprised me but this is where these #1's seem to land at the mo, like Scarlet Spider and Winter Soldier.

Yeah Jim Lee is a huge draw, i dropped JL as the story has just bad, really bad in my opinion. So I'll only pick it up when lee draws it. He's one of those artist that got me into comics with his X-Men in the 90's.

A vs X #1 did over 200k, and it going to a 2nd print. So for someone who's so blatantly anti Marvel as you are how high were your expectations for something you are against?...

AOA is defintiely a huge surprise but it's a popular Alternate Universe story, I doubt the pre orders stay that high. I love how there are certain posters in this forum that claim the free copies of A vs X #1 were sent out, can we get some quotes from Marvel, or a retailer or Diamond Directly confirming this? As the retailer I spoke to denied getting free copies.

I really want to see people's reactions when the first Watchmen Mini Series are released and people claim the pre orders are great but the incentives on those minis are insane. As previously stated you can get all four #1's that ship in june for 3.99 at DCBSERVICE.COM, how insane is the discount for these if this retailer is offering all 4 issues that retail at 3..99 per comic for 3.99?

So please stop acting like it's just one company offering hefty discounts for massive pre orders.