Here we talk Classic Superman. DCnU need not apply. (Sorry)

**Superlad93** · 05-24-2012, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by Lexrules

Much better storytelling all around IMO. The S:TAS Superman was a punching bag to me. I HATE that. No one and I mean No one should be able to knock Superman on his ass except in very and I mean very rare occasions.

The Ruby / Spears Series just felt better to me. He was a good mix of Christopher Reeve, Silver age and Byrne Superman all in one and the stories were always top notch with Marv Wolfman writing them. Also the Smallville stories to this day are up there with some of the best storytelling in cartoon form I have ever seen.

Well I do agree that the storytelling was good but I will not say it was better because STAS had very good story in a lot of it episodes but both have their low points in story.

You seem to like the idea of power from Superman, and you know what? I'm with you. He's gotta be the biggest kid on the block with no second thoughts about it. The makers of STAS were very wrong headed in their thinking when it came to his powers and their relation to the story. But the idea that he should only rarely be tested in power and should only rarely be knocked down is wrong headed to me too. The idea that he is only as strong as he need to be has always been my motto. Guys can try and go a few rounds with him but they fail in the end. That's not to say that everyone and everything on earth should have a shot with no explanation though.

I think the Ruby/Spears Superman was good and it had a wide rage of stories being told in it, but it had no over reaching cohesiveness. STAS had this in the form of developing and returning characters who were introduced in the show (Supergirl, Darkseid, New Gods, Luminous who made a minor role in one ep then come back as a villain)

I feel the quality beats out the quantity here. Plus it will age much better and the themes and ideas can still get the kids of today into Superman way easier than the Ruby/Spears Superman can.

At least that how I feel.

**Lexrules** · 05-24-2012, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by Superlad93

Well I do agree that the storytelling was good but I will not say it was better because STAS had very good story in a lot of it episodes but both have their low points in story.

You seem to like the idea of power from Superman, and you know what? I'm with you. He's gotta be the biggest kid on the block with no second thoughts about it. The makers of STAS were very wrong headed in their thinking when it came to his powers and their relation to the story. But the idea that he should only rarely be tested in power and should only rarely be knocked down is wrong headed to me too. The idea that he is only as strong as he need to be has always been my motto. Guys can try and go a few rounds with him but they fail in the end. That's not to say that everyone and everything on earth should have a shot with no explanation though.

I think the Ruby/Spears Superman was good and it had a wide rage of stories being told in it, but it had no over reaching cohesiveness. STAS had this in the form of developing and returning characters who were introduced in the show (Supergirl, Darkseid, New Gods, Luminous who made a minor role in one ep then come back as a villain)

I feel the quality beats out the quantity here. Plus it will age much better and the themes and ideas can still get the kids of today into Superman way easier than the Ruby/Spears Superman can.

At least that how I feel.

Unfortunately the Ruby/ Spears only had 1 year because of production cost that they had to pay to DC to keep the show going was way to much for them to handle. It was doing very well in the ratings and was getting praise at every turn, CBS actually picked it up for a second season very early on as well. If they had another season I'm sure you would have seen a wide assortment of Superman villains and other DC heroes showing up to Help Supes in his Never Ending Battle.

**SJNeal** · 05-24-2012, 03:02 PM

I actually re-watched my Ruby/Spears Superman DVD's about a week or so ago. Still great stuff.

I just wish Lois would have changed that awful pink outfit once in awhile...

**Bo-Man** · 05-27-2012, 04:00 PM

I loved the Silver and Bronze Age Superman. Specifically the Bronze Age when Clark worked at WGBS as a tv reporter with Lana Lang. You had classic characters Lois Lane, Perry White, and Jimmy Olsen plus new characters Morgan Edge and Steve Lombard. Having villains such as Lex Luthor, The Parasite, Brainiac, The Terra Man, Bizarro, etc. I miss the love triangle with Superman, Lois, and Lana as well.

**marshal99** · 05-29-2012, 09:29 AM

Some classic superman

**marshal99** · 05-29-2012, 09:45 AM

**Mat001** · 05-29-2012, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by Lexrules

Much better storytelling all around IMO. The S:TAS Superman was a punching bag to me. I HATE that. No one and I mean No one should be able to knock Superman on his ass except in very and I mean very rare occasions.

Maybe not everyone, but more than just a rare occasion. Otherwise it becomes dull.

**James Hunter** · 05-29-2012, 12:47 PM

This may seem an odd question (well its 2 actually, I just thought of a second!)

1) What are dsome good EARTH-2 Superman stories (I am currently reading SHOWCASE: ALL STARS which he has a very minor involvement in)

2) Did anyone else actually think that the "New Krypton" stuff made Superman a MUCH more interesting character then he had been in a while?? I am far from a major Superman fan but I loved what was done in those months.

Cheers.

James.

**marshal99** · 05-29-2012, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by James Hunter

This may seem an odd question (well its 2 actually, I just thought of a second!)

1) What are dsome good EARTH-2 Superman stories (I am currently reading SHOWCASE: ALL STARS which he has a very minor involvement in)

Cheers.
James.

1.

Actiion comics 484 - the marriage of E2 superman and lois. "Superman takes a wife"

DC comics presents annual 1 - teamup of E1 & E2 superman & E3 Luthor vs E1 & E2 Luthor & E3 ultraman.

America vs the justice society mini series 1-4

Most of his early married life with Lois was covered in the Superman family comics. In superman family issue 211 , we are shown the wedding of E2 Bruce Wayne with Selina Kyle and Clark revealed his superman identity to Selina afterwards.