Here we talk Classic Superman. DCnU need not apply. (Sorry)

[planetman]

Thanks!

[Last Son]

Unfortunately, it's all in the can and unlikely they'll change anything at this stage.

Considering the movie is pretty much filming at this point, that's a pretty good bet.

[Lexrules]

Considering the movie is pretty much filming at this point, that's a pretty good bet.

I'm hoping for a good return but for the suit to be panned by critics and the general public. I think most have a image of what Superman should look like and will be turned off by the look of the suit.

[It's Superman]

[An Ear In The Fireplace]

Do readers respect Cary Bates?

I ask because I know myself I tend to take him for granted. It just so happens that the very first issue of World's Finest Comics I ever bought was issue 167 (June 1967), featuring a great imaginary story which remains one of my favourites--and the very first comic book story that Cary Bates ever sold (although I believe he had already sold some cover ideas). Like Jim Shooter, Bates was one of us. A fan turned pro.

I always held other writers like Jerry Siegel, Edmond Hamilton, and Otto Binder in great awe because they were from an earlier generation and seemed to be near godlike. These are the guys who created everything!

Yet I continue to think of Bates as that groovy guy who appeared on the cover of Amazing World of DC Comics no. 2 (September 1974), with Elliot S! Maggin and friends.



Or the guy who along with Maggin travelled to Earths 1 & 2 in Justice League of America 123 - 124 (October 1975 - November 1975). But it seems like Maggin is held in greater esteem, because he wrote stories of relevance and character. And latter day writers like Alan Moore and Grant Morrison have more gravitas--maybe because they are from Britain or maybe because they shook up the status quo.

However, when I think of the great Superman stories I have enjoyed over the years, so many of those stories were by Bates. He wrote "The Immortal Superman" (in Action Comics 385 - 387, February 1970 - April 1970)--an epic tale that seems to presage the kind of mind-expanding stories that Moore and Morrison would attempt. And "A Name is Born," "The Starry-Eyed Siren of Space," "The Challenge of Terra-Man," "The Sun of Superman," "Superman vs. Superstar," "The Midnight Murder Show," "Mystery Mission to Metropolis." And with Maggin, "Who Took the Super out of Superman" and "Superman 2001." Not to mention a long list of more stories. Plus all his other output for DC.

Does Bates get the praise he deserves? Given how much he produced--is there praise enough?

[It's Superman]

[manofsteel1979]

I may not always be a fan of Gary Frank's Superman art (especially the faces on some characters) but this is pure awesome sauce. Superman and Lois Lane. Classic. Love this cover.

[Lexrules]

I LOVE Gary Franks Superman. What a awesome picture.

[Ntikrst]

Do readers respect Cary Bates?

I ask because I know myself I tend to take him for granted. It just so happens that the very first issue of World's Finest Comics I ever bought was issue 167 (June 1967), featuring a great imaginary story which remains one of my favourites--and the very first comic book story that Cary Bates ever sold (although I believe he had already sold some cover ideas). Like Jim Shooter, Bates was one of us. A fan turned pro.

I always held other writers like Jerry Siegel, Edmond Hamilton, and Otto Binder in great awe because they were from an earlier generation and seemed to be near godlike. These are the guys who created everything!

Yet I continue to think of Bates as that groovy guy who appeared on the cover of Amazing World of DC Comics no. 2 (September 1974), with Elliot S! Maggin and friends.



Or the guy who along with Maggin travelled to Earths 1 & 2 in Justice League of America 123 - 124 (October 1975 - November 1975). But it seems like Maggin is held in greater esteem, because he wrote stories of relevance and character. And latter day writers like Alan Moore and Grant Morrison have more gravitas--maybe because they are from Britain or maybe because they shook up the status quo.

However, when I think of the great Superman stories I have enjoyed over the years, so many of those stories were by Bates. He wrote "The Immortal Superman" (in Action Comics 385 - 387, February 1970 - April 1970)--an epic tale that seems to presage the kind of mind-expanding stories that Moore and Morrison would attempt. And "A Name is Born," "The Starry-Eyed Siren of Space," "The Challenge of Terra-Man," "The Sun of Superman," "Superman vs. Superstar," "The Midnight Murder Show," "Mystery Mission to Metropolis." And with Maggin, "Who Took the Super out of Superman" and "Superman 2001." Not to mention a long list of more stories. Plus all his other output for DC.

Does Bates get the praise he deserves? Given how much he produced--is there praise enough?

Wow, I've never heard of him, but some of his storylines sound familiar. I love that cover, those were the days...

[An Ear In The Fireplace]

Cary Bates wrote Superman for two decades. Few writers have come close to his productivity.

[It's Superman]

[It's Superman]

Superman from Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe:

[It's Superman]

[Mat001]

Cary Bates wrote Superman for two decades. Few writers have come close to his productivity.

Not just that, but he also wrote seasons two through four of "Superboy"/"The Adventures Of Superboy" and had written the first draft of the fifth film in the Reeve series, before WB took the rights back and canceled the project.

And if we're talking Classic Superman costume photos, then let's really get going.

[Lexrules]

This I miss very much. At first I was against bring the Kent's back to life when Byrne rebooted the series but as time went on and I saw just how great the dynamics was with them being alive I came to love it most of all about the reboot of 86. Their missed presents in the new books is devastating.

I also needs to add this pretty much sums it up about the greatness of Superman.