"Spider-Men" Teases Universe-Spanning Crossover

[CBR News]

Marvel has announced "Spider-Men," a new series written by Brian Michael Bendis with art by Sarah Pichelli possibly bringing Ultimate Spider-Man Miles Morales to the Marvel Universe.


Full article here.

[finfangfool]

Sounds interesting, I enjoyed the Spider-Man/Spider-Man 2099 crossover they had a while back. I hope it's just for a crossover though, fan backlash would kill Miles off before he had a chance to really establish himself if they planned on making him a permanent part of the 616 Marvel U.

[cdgodin]

Marvel has officially run out of ideas.

[One More Day]

Ugh I hope this isn't what Wacker means by 2012 being the last for Peter as Spider-Man.

[charlesthehammer]

Its weird that Peter and miles look about the same size (miles is only like what?13?).

[NickFury90]

IDK, Marcos Martin and Javier Paludio draw him around that size, lean and lithe.

If that is 616 Peter on the cover, which we still don't know.

[robcastor729]

If this turns out to be true good bye Ultimate Comics. I will never buy a Ultimate Comic book again. I'll be really disspointed in Marvel

[artiepants]

Marvel has officially run out of ideas.

they said it themselves.

It also feels way to soon to pull something like this with Miles before he's really been able to establish himself as a character.

[CrazyOldHermit]

What if Miles ends up getting his webshooters from 616 Peter?

[MarvelMaster616]

If it really is a crossover with Ultimate, it's over. Marvel has lost their minds and their imagination and every editor should retire out of shame. But if this is Miles Morales emerging in the 616 universe without any crossover with Ultimate, then I'm all for it. I would love to see Miles Morales enter the Marvel universe WITHOUT being forced into the void created by Peter Parker's death. It would show if his character can really stand on his own without having to leech off the vibes of established characters like Peter Parker. But this would probably make way too much sense so I'm taking the pessimistic route until shown otherwise.

[John Ossie]

It also feels way to soon to pull something like this with Miles before he's really been able to establish himself as a character.

Maybe they're trying to get fans to accept Miles as a character by having him in a series with Peter so fans will read more about him because they're following Peter in this story and end up deciding to give Miles a go based on this crossover series?

I don't know it's just a guess on my part I for one actually think the Miles book has been good but maybe Marvel feel he could benefit from being in a story with Peter for some reason?.

Anyways I'll be picking up the first issue at least to see what it's like.

[PatrickG]

My feeling is that Ultimate Spider-Woman becomes a dude and makes a play at taking over in Peter Parker's life.

Or this is Miles vs. Marvel Zombies Peter.

Or this is aplay on history being made and maybe sets up a Miles Morales/2099 crossover.

-- Maybe even setting up an Ultimate 2099 concept?

[Mister Mets]

I guess this explains why there are more people on the Spider-Man boards than the X-forums.

I don't think this is a bad idea. It's preferable to bringing back Ultimate Peter Parker.

[hosstbl]

No one has mentioned the possibility that they may be introducing Miles in the 616 Marvel Universe.

[Mister Mets]

Posted this elsewhere when the project was first hinted at.

The most likely possibility is that the Ultimate Peter Parker is coming back. But it can also be the first crossover between the Ultimate Universe and the Classic Marvel Universe.

Marvel hasn't done a crossover in the eleven years since Ultimate Spider-Man #1, although they hinted at the possibility at the beginning of Mark Millar and Greg Land's Ultimate Fantastic Four run. That was a swerve which led to the introduction of the Marvel Zombies world. Though the Marvel Zombies interacted with Black Panther, so there's at least some precedent for one of the Spider-Man to travel into the world of the other. There was also the recent Shattered Dimensions video game, featuring the Marvel Universe Spider-Man, the Ultimate Peter Parker, the Noir Peter Parker and Spider-Man 2099.

A common complaint about the crossover is that Marvel promised they wouldn't ever tell that story. A quote that's referenced a few times in online discussions today is Quesada's alleged comment that the day Marvel does a crossover between the two universes is the day they run out of ideas. To be fair to Quesada, I haven't been able to google the exact quote, although I do vaguely remember hearing something like that.

If he said, that's not a reason to reject a story that could be exciting. When the idea of an X-Over was first broached, it was during a time when the Ultimate Spider-Man was Peter Parker, and a team-up would feature a teen meeting an alternate version of himself as a slightly older guy. But the dynamic has changed significantly, and I wouldn't mind seeing a crossover between the 616 Peter Parker and the Ultimate Miles Morales. It would be an interesting for to have Peter go to a world in which he's essentially Joan of Arc, a young martyr who inspired millions. And for Miles, it would fascinating to see the guy his role model would have grown up to become.

As Bendis is one of the architects of the Avengers VS X-Men, an event which is supposed to change the Marvel Universe, Ultimate Spider-Men might be some sort of tie-in to that. Though I admit that the likelier possibility is that the Ultimate Peter Parker is coming back from the dead, as has been the case with Johnny Storm, Steve Rogers, the Winter Soldier, Bruce Wayne and other superheroes who were killed off in high-profile storylines.

Honestly, I think it's better to keep the Ultimate Peter Parker dead, and to never bring him back. The Ultimate Peter's death is meaningful for the Ultimate Universe, almost the 21st Century version of the Death of Gwen Stacy. It's something that distinguishes the Ultimate Universe from the Classic Marvel Universe, suggesting to readers that this is an entirely different playground than the one they're used to.

Bringing back a teenage Peter Parker to a world in which he's a celebrity would generate some story ideas, but it seems like something that would be exhausted rather quickly. And it might kneecap his best-selling replacement, as the character's not as important in a world with Peter Parker. It would show that the Ultimate Universe isn't that different from the Classic Marvel Universe. But a team-up between the Classic Peter Parker and Miles Morales could highlight what's made both characters and world unique.