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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Decay View Post
    hahaha, what're you talking about?
    The title of the thread "Manhattan Projects #1 is the best comic issue of 2012"

    'Comic Issue' suggests were talking about a single monthly comics of series, not multiple issues or story-arcs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Adventurer View Post
    The title of the thread "Manhattan Projects #1 is the best comic issue of 2012"

    'Comic Issue' suggests were talking about a single monthly comics of series, not multiple issues or story-arcs.
    Well, yeah.

    Fatale # 1 is better than The Manhattan Projects # 1. Fatale # 2 is better than The Manhattan Projects # 1.

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    Nonsense, the book of the year is Jonathan Hickman's Ultimate Comics: The Ultimates!

    All his seven issues so far have been legendary, and each individually makes for a fun read!
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    What a fantastic premise. As with all Hickman stories I've read, he quickly plunges into the unexpected. He can do no wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott M Davis View Post
    Nope, best comic to date is Ralph Wiggum Comics #1.
    hahaha, I'm glad I'm venturing into new forums. Otherwise, I'd have missed this comic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Decay View Post
    Well, yeah.

    Fatale # 1 is better than The Manhattan Projects # 1. Fatale # 2 is better than The Manhattan Projects # 1.

    etc.
    I don't get the Fatale hype. It didn't impress me. I'll wait till the trade comes out and read it again, to see if it works better connected.


    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Decay View Post
    Spawn # 215-217
    Also, seriously? Spawn compares to any of those others? What's even going on in Spawn at this point?

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    Would you reccomend his other image series?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_i4got View Post
    Would you reccomend his other image series?
    I personally recommend A Red Mass for Mars and The Red Wing. But I don't recommend The Nightly News and Pax Romana. I didn't like those two very much. But others will probably disagree. I can't comment on Transhuman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squashmaster View Post
    "But we're only two months and some change into 2012, what are you talking about?"

    I am talking about the best single comic issue of 2012. I guarantee there won't be one issue you read this year that's better.

    Holy. God.

    I've read few first issues of any comic that set up and draw you in so well.

    Hickman is the new Grant Morrison, only without the meta textual or psychedelic stuff.
    "I think this is the best comic ever therefore I must be right and you must all agree with me."

    Cool story bro.

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    Hickman is a better idea man, then he is writer. I love the concepts of all of his work but when I read them, they are so boring and flat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott M Davis View Post
    Hickman is a better idea man, then he is writer. I love the concepts of all of his work but when I read them, they are so boring and flat.
    This is basically my exact opinion on his work as well. The ideas are all cool but the execution is never that great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott M Davis View Post
    Hickman is a better idea man, then he is writer. I love the concepts of all of his work but when I read them, they are so boring and flat.
    I wouldn't go quite that far, but I get where you're coming from. The execution rarely lives up to the promise of the high concept, and his character work has been something of a mixed bag. There's always a cerebral appeal, but it's often bloodless and not particularly engaging.

    Also, regarding this issue in particular, I thought the twist was somewhat clumsily telegraphed. I still liked it quite a bit, but I wouldn't say it's any better, say, Fatale #1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expletive Deleted View Post
    I wouldn't go quite that far, but I get where you're coming from. The execution rarely lives up to the promise of the high concept, and his character work has been something of a mixed bag. There's always a cerebral appeal, but it's often bloodless and not particularly engaging.

    Also, regarding this issue in particular, I thought the twist was somewhat clumsily telegraphed. I still liked it quite a bit, but I wouldn't say it's any better, say, Fatale #1.
    Boring and Flat is a poor choice of words.

    While I did like the issue, I'll trade it in the end. I actually didn't see the ending coming cause the layout of the twins back story was clumsy. I didn't know to read one page then the other or to read right across blue, then orange. It could have been better laid out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott M Davis View Post
    Hickman is a better idea man, then he is writer. I love the concepts of all of his work but when I read them, they are so boring and flat.
    Except here. Because in MP he seriously builds up some facinating characters, sets up a major twist, then pays if off in spades. All the while laying the foundations for other stories. There is nothing 'boring and flat' about the story in MP #1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Adventurer View Post
    Except here. Because in MP he seriously builds up some facinating characters, sets up a major twist, then pays if off in spades. All the while laying the foundations for other stories. There is nothing 'boring and flat' about the story in MP #1.
    I agree that #1 is better in these aspects than usual Hickman's work. My major problem with him is that his stories, while brilliantly plotted with a very long term planing, at the same time more often than not manage to disappoint at the ending point. At least to me he has some big problems with selling the pay off of all these storylines he created along the way to the grand finale to make them really spectacular (it happened with Secret Warriors and though he got better it's similar with his Fantastic Four run). I think Hickman still needs to work on his storytelling skills, but once he improves them he will without any doubt be one of the best writers right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squashmaster View Post
    Also, seriously? Spawn compares to any of those others? What's even going on in Spawn at this point?
    Why wouldn't it? It's a very dark, macabre story with superb art. Szymon Kudranski is one of the best new artists producing some of the best art on the stands.

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