Is DC even going to try to compete with Marvel on the big screen?

[TheFatFilmGuy]

So many good story arcs they could do. Not to mention, Warner Brothers owns DC and HBO, why not a Preacher series to be paired with True Blood or a Sandman to go with Game of Thrones? It makes no sense.

http://www.thefatfilmguy.com/2012/05...uld-be_02.html

[suss2it]

300 and Dawn of the Dead were well received.

Watchmen did about at well as anybody could reasonably expect.

Sucker Punch was a bomb.

Zach's got about a 50/50 shot with this.

I really, really don't have a dog in this hunt since they idea of seeing another Superman movie bores me.

Personally, I'm @##$%$ tired of Superman.

But if it does well, bravo.

There's also that CGI owls movie he made that also flopped.

I think the idea that TDKR is going to beat Avengers worldwide is...really really really kinda stretching it. TDKR has almost no hype around it. No actors died. It's just another Superhero movie.

I mean, we'll see. But aside from the fact that TDK made a decent amount of money - though it has been severely displaced on the box office charts by bigger selling movies since then, I don't see where this idea that Dark Knight Rises is going to make anywhere near Avengers money? I bet it'll open here at maybe 100million.

A decent amount of money? It's made more money than any other superhero or comic-book movie, ever. Also, the only movie that made more money than Dark Knight after it was released was Avatar.

[Darrell D.]

I think the idea that TDKR is going to beat Avengers worldwide is...really really really kinda stretching it. TDKR has almost no hype around it. No actors died. It's just another Superhero movie.

I mean, we'll see. But aside from the fact that TDK made a decent amount of money - though it has been severely displaced on the box office charts by bigger selling movies since then, I don't see where this idea that Dark Knight Rises is going to make anywhere near Avengers money? I bet it'll open here at maybe 100million.

It's gonna have an uphill battle with the numbers that The Avengers are tracking, that's for sure.

[Jim Thompson]

It's gonna have an uphill battle with the numbers that The Avengers are tracking, that's for sure.

Yeah, I completely agree with you here. The Avengers is doing some monster box office right now.

[Darrell D.]

Yeah, I completely agree with you here. The Avengers is doing some monster box office right now.

I just wish Disney had worked as hard for John Carter. It was film that deserved a bigger push.

[Jim Thompson]

I just wish Disney had worked as hard for John Carter. It was film that deserved a bigger push.

That was a disappointing showing for what was, I thought, a fairly enjoyable film.

[David Walton]

...you need to meet more women.

LOL! My wife might disagree.

If fact, Batman may be the franchise women love the most when it comes to superhero comics. Unless I'm mistaken, 48 % of the opening weekend audience of TDK was female.

I don't know about that...but the real question there would be, was it a trade-off date movie? Guy at my local Hastings said he had a pact with his fiance that he took her to see the Nolan movies and he had to suffer through Twilight.

Yeah because women hate those hidious mugs of Christian Bale and Joseph Gordon Levitt.

Every girl I've ever asked "who is the hottest superhero" always says Batman. Mysterious, disturbed, good looking, billionaire, dressed in black leather?!? I'm straight and I think he's hot!

The women I've talked to have been much more excited about Chris Hemsworth and Chris Evans than Christian Bale (wow, that's a lot of variations on 'Chris'!).

I tend to think Batman is more of a male wish fulfillment fantasy than a romantic lead. He's super competent and puts the mission first. Captain America and Thor, on the other hand, are no less brave or competent, but they are also very sweet and chivalrous. I could be totally wrong, but I think Thor's pledge to find a way back to earth for Jane Foster, or Cap's perfectly delivered line, "But I had a date" resonate much better romantically than Wayne's doomed relationships.

I was having a discussion with some guys at church about Avengers this weekend, and one man in his fifties said that his wife surprised him by asking when they were going to see Avengers. Another guy who's twenty said a girl actually asked him out to see the movie. My wife hated TDK, but she liked Iron Man, Thor, and Captain America.

I think if you were to ask around, you'd find a lot of similar stories about women who weren't enthused at first, but caught Thor or Captain America on video and are now excited about Avengers.

As for DKR, it's going up against massive expectations, and this without the Joker.

[David Walton]

That was a disappointing showing for what was, I thought, a fairly enjoyable film.

You are not kidding, brother! It deserved much better. I don't know if the trailers did it any favors, but no one I know who actually saw the film was disappointed.

[Darrell D.]

That was a disappointing showing for what was, I thought, a fairly enjoyable film.

It really could have been Disney's new Pirates of the Caribbean in terms of a franchise.

[USERNAME TAKEN]

It really could have been Disney's new Pirates of the Caribbean in terms of a franchise.

Agreed.

John Carter was a colossal marketing fail.

I watched it with my girlfriend (i actually had to explain the basic premise because the advertising was so f-ed up) and she was blown away after. She was asking when we would see a sequel, unfortunately i had to give her a lecture on box office economics and messed up marketing.

[Cowtools]

Agreed.

John Carter was a colossal marketing fail.

I watched it with my girlfriend (i actually had to explain the basic premise because the advertising was so f-ed up) and she was blown away after. She was asking when we would see a sequel, unfortunately i had to give her a lecture on box office economics and messed up marketing.

Did you read this? http://www.vulture.com/2012/03/john-...t-trailer.html
It's dispiriting reading.

[SpideyCzar]

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3433&p=.htm

Looks like right now Boxofficemojo.com has Dark Knight Rises as the highest grossing movie domestically of the summer. With Avengers & Amazing Spider-Man as #2 & 3. I tend to agree at this point, with maybe Avengers making more in it's Worldwide gross than DKR.

[Kiryu]

A decent amount of money? It's made more money than any other superhero or comic-book movie, ever. Also, the only movie that made more money than Dark Knight after it was released was Avatar.

That's only domestically, and the international market is much much more important now, as evidenced by Avengers being released everywhere else in the world first. Worldwide, TDK doesn't make it in the top ten.

[shark]

LOL! My wife might disagree.

I don't know about that...but the real question there would be, was it a trade-off date movie? Guy at my local Hastings said he had a pact with his fiance that he took her to see the Nolan movies and he had to suffer through Twilight.

Date movie? What makes you think women who go to see action movies only do so to go with their boyfriends? Believe it or not, there are plenty of women who go because they like the genre.

[SpideyCzar]

That's only domestically, and the international market is much much more important now, as evidenced by Avengers being released everywhere else in the world first. Worldwide, TDK doesn't make it in the top ten.

I've been trying to get people to understand this for quite osme time now. Stop looking at domestic grosses to gauge a movie's success or failure. Heck both Thor & Captain America made more money internationally than they did domestically. Look at Wrath of the Titans and John Carter, both made substantially more Internationally than domestically. Movie releases is a world wide business, not just a North America business. And I'm not saying John Carter wasn't a bomb, or lost money just saying the International Markert helped it from becoming a even larger loss for Disney.