Is DC even going to try to compete with Marvel on the big screen?

[Mat001]

Having a muder mystery isn't innovative. Especially since none of Loeb's mysteries makes one lick of sense.

The Batman books by that time were nothing but Batman fighting bad guys and doing very little detective work. It was hailed as a refreshing change. As to TLH, there was no confusion. It was Gilda Dent and Alberto Falcone. Harvey was covering for Gilda when he said that he was the other killer.

It doesn't eplore his Rogues at all, nothing new to see there. They mostly show up, neatly one per issue usually, and that's it. It's just an excuse to have Tim Sale draw them all. His Scarecrow doesn't even seem remotely like the same character.
It's all very gorgeous to look at, but there's precious little story there.

It's neat and simple which was missing from the Bat books at the time. The Joker loves chaos, Catwoman likes Batman and wants to steal, Grundy is destruction.

Just Dent gets some meaty bits, but his story Loeb ripped from the Harrison Ford film 'Presumed Innocent', conclusion of the murder mystery and all.

Except in that film, Ford's character never willingly takes the fall. Harvey does. And there was also another killer.

And what gangster element did Loeb introduce? He just reused some bits from Year One, a story that actually was significant. Just like 90% of his books are reused bits from far superior books. Loeb specialises in comicbook clip shows.

The gangster element was the focus on both Maroni and Falcone. In the Batman books, the mob was all but gone. Pretty much an afterthought. The praise was in bringing that element back to the forefront and making it relevant to Batman. He expanded on stories that Miller intentionally left open to be followed upon and at that point, only Sarah Essen was in use.

[Flashpoint]

Aren't superhero movies already coming to cinemas in tsunami form anyway? We get at least 3 a year usually.

I was chatting with the employees at my LCS the other day and we all agreed that studios are probably going to increase that amount. I wouldn't be surprised to see a new superhero movie on a quarterly basis in the years ahead.

Will that be sustainable? Probably not. But smaller studios could put out a much lower budgeted superhero movie that grosses a minor fraction of what TDKR or Avengers rake in and still turn a profit.

Point being, I expect the quantity and frequency of superhero movies being released to significantly increase.

[blinker]

But about 1 DC adaption every year, if were lucky.

[golgi]

The Los Angeles Times is reporting that box office tracking for "The Dark Knight Rises" is higher than tracking for the last Harry Potter, Hunger Games and, yes, also higher than Avengers.



If TDKR beats Avengers, we are guaranteed to see a flood of superhero movies the likes of which we've never seen before.

And Justice League WILL go into production. Count on it.

Incredible. If it beats Avengers (Which I still doubt), it will be the biggest success in box office history, since it doesn't have 3-D gimmick.

[Vibranium]

Incredible. If it beats Avengers (Which I still doubt), it will be the biggest success in box office history, since it doesn't have 3-D gimmick.

but it is being show in Fake IMAX...so its getting a nice bump there

[golgi]

but it is being show in Fake IMAX...so its getting a nice bump there

3-D has more screens and highers prices on average, though. I'll be seeing this in IMAX. My first IMAX experience.

[Lord Bravery]

Yea 3D is a bigger boost. Of Avengers 200 million about 20 of that was from 3D. Still a record breaker.

Let's say TDKR gets to 200 million. Probably only 10 million of that is from IMAX or LieMax.

[Vibranium]

Yea 3D is a bigger boost. Of Avengers 200 million about 20 of that was from 3D. Still a record breaker.

Let's say TDKR gets to 200 million. Probably only 10 million of that is from IMAX or LieMax.

I still think the big driver of what TDKR makes will be one of the oldest factors....family appeal....I saw families of anywhere from 3-7 people in the Avengers showings I went to...not as much of that in the Batman films

Avengers was a 4 quadrant release, I don't think TDKR has that wide of a range

[golgi]

In general, I guess, but parents will still bring their children in. Hell, in the 80's, my aunt brought me into Nightmare On Elm Street movies and Friday the 13th. I loved them. ;)

[Vibranium]

and parents today are hoverers who think the slightest forms of violence will taint their peanut and dust allergen children

[golgi]

TDKR already has 25M in pre-sales. Pretty good. It could surpass DH2 in Midnights.