Is DC even going to try to compete with Marvel on the big screen?

[Darrell D.]

but then the general movie-goer will just say they copied hawkeye from the avengers. if avengers is as big as its expected, DC has already lost with a solo Green Arrow.

If you snooze, you lose.

[Flashpoint]

I had that happen when I was post from school too I just want you to know that your input is well written and argued. I can familiarize at how frustrating that experience and just want you to know that it was worth the effort to repeat yourself.

LOL. Thanks, Reginleif. I appreciate that.

I'd actually gone all-out with a full court press including quotes and links from WB studio head Jeff Robinov's announcement last year to the L.A. Times that they're planning a Justice League movie.

Ah well. Most of my major points got covered without half a dozen references to back me up.

[Flashpoint]

but then the general movie-goer will just say they copied hawkeye from the avengers. if avengers is as big as its expected, DC has already lost with a solo Green Arrow.

Actually, the Green Arrow TV series also debuts this May, doesn't it? Besides, that's like saying Marvel ripped off Mister Freeze from "Batman & Robin" or Captain Cold from Super Friends because they put Iceman in the X-Men movie.

[Hulk_Is]

Actually, the Green Arrow TV series also debuts this May, doesn't it? Besides, that's like saying Marvel ripped off Mister Freeze from "Batman & Robin" or Captain Cold from Super Friends because they put Iceman in the X-Men movie.

But, people make those comparisons all the time. Avengers should be the huge and kewl movie with the original archer. If Green Arrow follows that he won't have had the benefit of being bouyed by kewlness. But, GA will also have the luxury of also being associated with inevitable Robin Hood comparisons.

[Dr. Hurt]

Y'know who should get a movie? Green Arrow.

I always felt he had a kickass origin story. Spoiled rich kid gets tossed into the wilderness and goes Rambo on a bunch of smugglers? That's the foundation for a good action movie even if he never puts a mask on. Needs a good villain, though.

As a tv series it would be fine, but as a movie? Nowadays superhero movies are more than a guy with a bow. That was Rambo in the 80ies. Now we have giant transforming robots, Ironman's suits, mansions and cool cars, the Avengers, Batman's intense car chases and gliding scenes... Why would anyone watch a dude shoot arrows in a forest? You know what i mean?

[Hulk_Is]

As a tv series it would be fine, but as a movie? Nowadays superhero movies are more than a guy with a bow. That was Rambo in the 80ies. Now we have giant transforming robots, Ironman's suits, mansions and cool cars, the Avengers, Batman's intense car chases and gliding scenes... Why would anyone watch a dude shoot arrows in a forest? You know what i mean?

I know, right. It's bad enough they've got Hawkeye taking on a giant flying worm with a b&a. lol

[Reginleif]

I know, right. It's bad enough they've got Hawkeye taking on a giant flying worm with a b&a. lol

Honestly, Hawkeye and Green Arrow are two characters that look ridiculous in modern film.

[Reginleif]

Actually, the Green Arrow TV series also debuts this May, doesn't it? Besides, that's like saying Marvel ripped off Mister Freeze from "Batman & Robin" or Captain Cold from Super Friends because they put Iceman in the X-Men movie.

He was also in Smallville two for like, 5 seasons

[RoyalTailor]

@Mat001, you just nearly brought me to tears! I had forgotten all about Space Jam. I loved Michael Jordan as a child and I still think those were the best NBA days ever.

So what's going on with Warner Brothers, DC Comic and the proposed Jonny Quest and ThunderCats, Voltron movies? I read last year that they'd be greenlighted and now there is nothing but silence. I even pulled up official concept art from Warner Brothers for the ThunderCats and Voltron movies last year.

[Dr. Hurt]

I know, right. It's bad enough they've got Hawkeye taking on a giant flying worm with a b&a. lol

I doubt he's gonna be the one to take it down, nor is his or G.A. rogues gallery or stories like that.

Your point would be right if they fought things like that in their books, but they're 2 of the most grounded heroes out there, their bows and trick arrows being their whole cool factor. Which might be enough on the page but not on the big screen in 2012.

[Reginleif]

I doubt he's gonna be the one to take it down, nor is his or G.A. rogues gallery or stories like that.

Your point would be right if they fought things like that in their books, but they're 2 of the most grounded heroes out there, their bows and trick arrows being their whole cool factor. Which might be enough on the page but not on the big screen in 2012.

If the film universe's each repective character existed in were more grounded like Nolan's Batman it would make more sense, but then we still got bow vs guns...

[RoughNTumble]

DC just needs to stick with doing movies for individual heroes. Get a talented director who cares about a character (like nolan for batman or potentially refn for wonder woman) and let them do their thing. I don't want to see the same tone for every dc character copy/pasted across multiple movies like what marvel is doing. It makes everything bland and forgettable.

We saw them try and copy marvel's success by forcing green lantern into an iron man clone movie, and it failed miserably. Instead of trusting a director like burton with the original batman movies or nolan with the newer ones, they played it safe and lost big time.

Why are people still thinking green lantern 2 will be made? It was a major critical flop, had horrible word of mouth, and barely broke even. Unfortunately I'd be surprised if we even got a flash movie at this point.

[Zak213]

You cant put his batman in a shared universe. This Batman is 10 times more grounded than the street level batman in comics, and you re gonna need the batgod in the JL. Plus, there's the issue with TDKR which goes 8 years in the future and probably ends the story, so whatever they do, they have a finite ending and that cuts down on their creative freedom.

I'd rather they just start over. We know the origin, move on to his third year as Batman, put him in a properly looking Gotham, and have him fight Dr Strange. Arkham City just gave the reboot movie 10000000000000 viewers just like that. New franchise status: successful.
It seems that WB have no idea what they're doing. DCE is trying to be like Marvel Studios and manage the movies, but its clear that they need better people. Johns can write comics but not movies. So they're kneeling in front of Nolan and asking him to stay and manage things, the Superman movie, the batman movie, etc. As if they're aliens in a foreign planet and they have no sense of good taste. "Please Mr. Nolan, tell us which movie pitch we should adapt. We clearly cant understand what the people want. I mean why wouldnt they like Catwoman?"

Well by nature do you need to make things exactly like the comics to adapt the comics?

I felt that the reason why Joker was just a regular guy was more budget concerns than actual dislike as Harvey's situation needed the cg more than he did. Plus if you can do something simpler and still got the point across to save budget shouldn't you do it?

take thor 's rendition of volstagg as fans complain about him not being fat enough and wanted them to cg him up. That would have a waste of money as he works regardless and they need it for other things like the destroyer.

Plus Bane could still use venom in the film, it might not be as big as the comic but it gets the point across. I rather they save the CG for those who need it(ie Killer croc) and interpret other characters(ie penguin,riddler) in less costly ways. Plus Robin and the other heroes were excluded simply because he is not a sociable character and being among other superheroes would give him less mystique.

So I dont think its that much of a stretch to bring in the supernatural elements into Nolan's Batman as long as they play it smart.

Well DCE failed big time with GL and Nolan made them more money than they could count so can you blame them?

Hollywood is common to blame other factors for those failure such as it having a female lead or not gritty when it comes to them being crap.

They need some who could fine the best of both styles like YJ/Spec Spidey.

[comicboy53]

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[Flashpoint]

Dont yall think it would be cool if Bruce Timm and Paul Dini made a Batman reboot. Then again I'm not sure if live action films are up their alley but Dini did write Arkham asylum maybe he could try movies.

Hollywood, like most human beings, tends to pigeon-hole people. It's very difficult to make the leap from directing animated films to directing live action, big budget movies. Look how long it took before Brad Bird got to graduate from Pixar's "Incredibles" to "Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol."

Then again, I have no idea if Timm and Dini have any desire to do live action. As far as Batman goes, I'm unconcerned. WB has learned the error of past executives' ways in terms of making Batman a comedy. Gone are the days where WB execs would insist Tim Burton lighten up Batman and make it less dark, be more fun--yes, that actually happened. With all the money, critical acclaim and Oscar awards that Nolan's Batman won, it's safe to say we'll never see a campy Batman again.

WB knows how to make good Superman and Batman movies. The central issue is competing with Marvel and challenging their monopoly on most superhero movies by creating a successful shared universe of their own. In a post-Nolan Batman world, who will be the directors that try to grab the golden ring?

Anyone have a few directors they'd like to suggest WB sign up for directing DC movies?

I want Sam Raimi for GL2.