White Tiger Joins S.H.I.E.L.D. in "Ultimate Spider-Man"

[CBR News]

Marvel has revealed new details on White Tiger, the newest in "Ultimate Spider-Man's" amazing friends to join the wall-crawler for his animated adventures.


Full article here.

[MattBearPig]

I feel really stupid for having no idea who the hell White Tiger is.

[IronMagnus]

I feel really stupid for having no idea who the hell White Tiger is.

The male White Tiger was Marvel's first-ever Hispanic superhero. It kind of sucks that Marvel keeps him in limbo. He deserves more prominence than that.

[nickcarraway]

The male White Tiger was Marvel's first-ever Hispanic superhero. It kind of sucks that Marvel keeps him in limbo. He deserves more prominence than that.

Hector (the original White Tiger) died an important death in Bendis' Daredevil run and then passed onto his niece who was also a supporting character in the rest of his run. The latest incarnation of the White Tiger is Hector's younger sister who is a character in Avengers Academy. Don't really think the character is not that prominent in modern 616.

[Free-Man]

So are they going to mention Angela and Hector in this? Cool!

[artiepants]

I'm getting excited for this series, somehow i missed/forgot that Paul Dini was involved...

[jediracer]

I feel really stupid for having no idea who the hell White Tiger is.

They did a mini with a new female White tiger a few years ago...with David mack covers. I actually enjoyed it quite a bit.

[Sighphi]

I dont know but this looks more like a SHIELD cartoon than a Spider-man one.
Every character they show is part of SHIELD.

[tesh_karde]

I think it's a neat idea, although I do wonder why they named it Ultimate Spider-Man and not something like, Spider-Man and the Young Avengers or something. I'm definitely looking forward to it though. If it's half as good as Avengers: EMH, we're in for a treat!

[AdamYJ]

I dont but this looks more like a SHIELD cartoon than a Spider-man one.
Every character they show is part of SHIELD.

That's because they've turned SHIELD into some big superhero organizing force in the movies and recent comics. So, for the purposes of this show, they also run a superhero training group.

Remember back when SHIELD just took care of the super-spy stuff like AIM, HYDRA and Scorpio (though, Scorpio did do double duty with the Zodiac cartel). Those days seem so long ago now.

[jediracer]

So is SHIELD the new Avengers or something? Because I remember the good old days when superhero groups were independent of government organizations such as SHIELD. Is this s post civil war thing?

[Assassin Spider]

Maybe, but "realistically" speaking, S.H.I.E.L.D. as the proverbial "Big Good" that supports Marvel's superheroes makes a little more sense than the superheroes operating on their own or as private paramilitary forces. The general tendency among the public is to distrust "justice by extralegal means," especially since a lot of the gangs that have been menacing this country for decades started as essentially vigilante operations before being corrupted by money and drugs. Government oversight theoretically reduces the chances of a superhero organization falling to the same kind of corruption that most of the real-life gangs that started as organized vigilantes did, as it means there's always somebody to keep them from getting out of line.

Also, "realistically" speaking, young superheroes should be brought under the wing of those with more experience and taught how to make the best use of their powers and abilities as soon as possible, so as to lessen the chances of them getting themselves killed (R.I.P. Ultimate Peter Parker) or turning into villains trying to pursue what they think is right. Not to mention this was the original point of Civil War, that any yahoo with a neat gimmick and a costume could call themselves a superhero and there was no oversight to keep them from getting themselves in situations over their heads and messing up big time and bringing heat down on the entire superhero community because said community couldn't self-police efficiently enough to either whip them into shape or screen them out before their screw-ups got the entire community tarred with the same brush by fearmongering media personalities and politicians.

[AdamYJ]

Maybe, but "realistically" speaking, S.H.I.E.L.D. as the proverbial "Big Good" that supports Marvel's superheroes makes a little more sense than the superheroes operating on their own or as private paramilitary forces. The general tendency among the public is to distrust "justice by extralegal means," especially since a lot of the gangs that have been menacing this country for decades started as essentially vigilante operations before being corrupted by money and drugs. Government oversight theoretically reduces the chances of a superhero organization falling to the same kind of corruption that most of the real-life gangs that started as organized vigilantes did, as it means there's always somebody to keep them from getting out of line.

Also, "realistically" speaking, young superheroes should be brought under the wing of those with more experience and taught how to make the best use of their powers and abilities as soon as possible, so as to lessen the chances of them getting themselves killed (R.I.P. Ultimate Peter Parker) or turning into villains trying to pursue what they think is right. Not to mention this was the original point of Civil War, that any yahoo with a neat gimmick and a costume could call themselves a superhero and there was no oversight to keep them from getting themselves in situations over their heads and messing up big time and bringing heat down on the entire superhero community because said community couldn't self-police efficiently enough to either whip them into shape or screen them out before their screw-ups got the entire community tarred with the same brush by fearmongering media personalities and politicians.

I understand the concept, but I think Marvel takes it too far into murky, gritty conspiracy-laden depths. Between Civil War, the Hulk-Busters, Secret Empire, the Sentinel program, Freedom Force and various other things, the Marvel versions of the US government and military just have too much history of being morally bankrupt for it to really work.

Everyone has their own idea of what it would be like "if superheroes were real", but my view is that they would be worked into the existing infrastructure of rescue and law enforcement officials. Lets use DC's Flash as an example. If the Flash existed in the real world, he'd just be a special kind of cop. He'd be Central City Police Department Special Officer Barry Allen. He'd have a police blue superhero suit with a shield on it (hard to pin a badge on circus tights) and no mask so people can see who he is and that's it. Maybe people would call him "Flash" as a nickname. Guys like Superman would work for some kind of aerial rescue group. Guys like Aquaman would work for the US Coast Guard or foreign equivalents. People whose powers can heal others would be paramedics. I don't think there'd be any great, big organization like SHIELD calling the shots. It would all be handled locally. Maybe a group like the FBI or the US Marshalls would have special "superhuman" divisions if things get too bad, but that would be it.

Just my view of it.

[Free-Man]

I'd reckon that the SHIELD stuff almost certainly has to do with the organization's prominence in the films, but I don't neccesarily think that's a bad thing. They certainly don't seem to be portraying Fury as much of a manipulative dirtbag like he was in the Ultimates, so I don't really think it hurts the story. The SHIELD background of course gives an excuse for the team-ups in the first place.