Ok Shaxper, after reading through parts of this thread, I felt the need to get my Apes on, so I set the DVR this morning/afternoon to record the Apes movie marathon on AMC. It's all your fault you know. I got strange looks from my wife-you're taping those? She loved Rise but has trouble sitting through the originals. Now I just have to find time to watch them all-it has been years and years since I have done so.