Smallville Discussion

[wyokid]

Lots of new info in this interview with Miles Miller

[dupersuper]

It occurs to me we've seen him in the red trunks when he was saving the plane in the future...

[wyokid]

It occurs to me we've seen him in the red trunks when he was saving the plane in the future...

Miller said the change will be explained in an issue.

[dupersuper]

Miller said the change will be explained in an issue.

But will the future change back be explained...?

[misslane38]

But will the future change back be explained...?

What future change back needs to be explained? The image of Superman in the red pants Clark saw during his dream in Salvation circa 2013 was only part of a dream. It wasn't an actual glimpse of the future. The glimpse of Superman we saw in Homecoming circa 2017 was part of a timeline that likely no longer exists exactly the way it did when Clark traveled there using Brainiac 5's Legion ring. As Bryan Q. Miller explained in a recent interview with "Across the Airwaves," seeing that future caused tiny ripple effects that may have changed the future in subtle ways, which may include the look of Clark's Superman suit.

[wyokid]

What future change back needs to be explained? The image of Superman in the red pants Clark saw during his dream in Salvation circa 2013 was only part of a dream. It wasn't an actual glimpse of the future. The glimpse of Superman we saw in Homecoming circa 2017 was part of a timeline that likely no longer exists exactly the way it did when Clark traveled there using Brainiac 5's Legion ring. As Bryan Q. Miller explained in a recent interview with "Across the Airwaves," seeing that future caused tiny ripple effects that may have changed the future in subtle ways, which may include the look of Clark's Superman suit.

The problem is that Smallville's time travel has never been explained like that.

[misslane38]

The problem is that Smallville's time travel has never been explained like that.

When has it not been explained like that? Episodes like Legion, Infamous, Doomsday, and Pandora all demonstrated how knowledge of the future can create different timelines.

[Ironman2978]

What future change back needs to be explained? The image of Superman in the red pants Clark saw during his dream in Salvation circa 2013 was only part of a dream. It wasn't an actual glimpse of the future. The glimpse of Superman we saw in Homecoming circa 2017 was part of a timeline that likely no longer exists exactly the way it did when Clark traveled there using Brainiac 5's Legion ring. As Bryan Q. Miller explained in a recent interview with "Across the Airwaves," seeing that future caused tiny ripple effects that may have changed the future in subtle ways, which may include the look of Clark's Superman suit.

Actually I remember the director and the people who wrote the script confirm it's a vision of the future on twitter.

[misslane38]

Actually I remember the director and the people who wrote the script confirm it's a vision of the future on twitter.

Do you have a source? Because I compiled a lot of spoiler tweets to post at another forum during that time and I don't recall that at all. A vision of the future isn't necessarily prophetic either. Dreaming of the future can also be interpreted is dreaming about a vision of Clark's future. I'd buy that it was a genuine vision in the prophetic sense, if it was described as a prophetic dream/vision. The bottom line for me is that Clark has never and will never have the ability to see the future. His future dream wasn't even accurate, since Lois was wearing a wedding ring in 2013. So, in my opinion, it was a dream and nothing more.

[wyokid]

When has it not been explained like that? Episodes like Legion, Infamous, Doomsday, and Pandora all demonstrated how knowledge of the future can create different timelines.

Everything that was said to come to pass did IIRC. If not I may need to watch the whole series again to be sure

[misslane38]

Everything that was said to come to pass did IIRC. If not I may need to watch the whole series again to be sure

Just watch Legion and Doomsday. Both make it perfectly clear that time can be rewritten. In Legion, Rokk, Imra, and Garth visit Clark in his Smallville days to save him from the Persuader, but have to say beyond that to stop Brainiac. They have to find another way to defeat Brainiac than the one they knew from the history books. When Rokk returns in Doomsday, he tells Clark that when they saved Chloe it rewrote the timeline yet again destroying the Legionnaires' future. Watch Pandora, and it's clear that a trip to the future gives one the ability to rewrite that future simply by making different choices. In this case, it was Lois who went to the future in Doomsday and we saw where she went in Pandora as well as the results of her trip throughout Season 9. So it's a fact on the show that futures are not set in stone. When Clark visited his future in Homecoming it was only a possible future for him because any decisions he made in the present could change it. Brainiac 5 instructed Clark that he could only get that future if he lived in the moment, and since Clark never learned the hows, whens, and whys that made that future possible, he didn't take the future for granted. Anyway, if you're referring to Clark's dream in Salvation, then there's an obvious clue that not everything came to pass as Lois is shown wearing a wedding ring in that dream set in 2013.

[shingi70]

So after seeing Batman Beyond spin-off Justice league and now superman beyond digital series, am i the only one hoping for a Justice League season #1 series.

[wyokid]

SMALLVILLE SEASON 11 #3
Written by BRYAN Q. MILLER
Art by PERE PEREZ
Cover by RYAN BENJAMIN and SALEEM CRAWFORD
On sale JULY 4 • 40 pg, FC, $3.99 US • RATED T
• The SEASON PREMIERE EVENT continues!
• OLIVER and CHLOE are on a hunt in the heartland…or are they the hunted?
• LOIS is caught in the crossfire as SUPERMAN confronts LEX about last issue’s disastrous climax…
• HENSHAW’s condition takes a turn for the worse!

This needs to hurry up and get here!

[Master X]

Can't wait, but I'm not seeing much resemblance to the live cast anymore. This will likely be my have title of the month, at least from DC anyway.

[manofsteel1979]

I agree. The solits for it make me want to read this book now!

I don't mind if the characters look EXACTLY like the actors. I'm happy to see a Superman that looks like a classic Superman. Nothing against Tom Welling, and I enjoyed his portrayle on the series itself, but his actual face would not translate well as a comic book version of Superman, even IF it does uses the continuity from the series. His face just looks a bit too angular to be what we expect any version of Supes to look like. It's forgivable in live action, as it's nearly impossible to find an actor that looks like the square jawed, chiseled Superman from the comics and is a half way decent actor(Chris Reeve and Henry Cavill not withstanding) and concessions have to be made especially when at the beginning,we were dealing with a teen age Clark. But comics, even ones based on TV series, shouldn't have to be held 100% to the limitations of reality.

The fact that Welling was a dark haired, tall, well built guy (at least by the last couple years of the show) and the SMALLVILLE comic version of Superman/Clark Kent follows the same basic template, it's good enough for me.