Marvel Omnibus/Oversized Hardcover Discussion Part IV

[DrGregatron]

There are at least 20 pages of extras I'd estimate. AND AT NO ADDITIONAL COST!

Some more cool stuff by Mr. Neal Adams


And some pencils from Mr. Adams, too!

[Captain Planet]

Permission to drool?

Granted!!!

[Omnibus]

Just saw that as well, the list is pretty extensive. I think I may have to pick up a couple.

Complete list

Acts Of Vengeance Crossovers Omnibus HC Davis Cvr: $49.99
* Acts Of Vengeance Crossovers Omnibus HC DmVar Ed: $49.99
* Acts of Vengeance Omnibus HC Davis Cvr: $49.99
* Amazing Spider-Man Omnibus HC: $49.99
* Astonishing X-Men By Whedon and Cassaday Omnibus HC: $37.49
* Atlantis Attacks Omnibus HC DM Layton Var Cvr: $37.49
* Atlantis Attacks Omnibus HC Mayhew Cover: $37.49
* Captain America By Ed Brubaker Omnibus Vol 1 HC: $37.49
* Captain America Lives Omnibus HC: $37.49
* Captain America Omnibus HC Vol 01 Garney Cover: $49.99
* Evolutionary War Omnibus HC Dm Var Ed Buscema Cvr: $37.49
* Evolutionary War Omnibus HC Garbett Cvr: $37.49
* Fantastic Four By John Byrne Omnibus HC 01 Dm Var Ed: $62.49
* Fantastic Four By John Byrne Omnibus HC Vol 01: $62.49
* Ghost Rider By Jason Aaron Omnibus HC: $24.99
* Golden Age Marvel Comics Omnibus HC Vol 01: $62.49
* Golden Age Marvel Comics Omnibus HC Vol 01 DM Ed: $62.49
* Incredible Hulk Omnibus Vol 1 HC Ross Variant: $49.99
* Invincible Iron Man Omnibus HC Vol 02 Colan DM Ed: $49.99
* Mighty Thor Omnibus HC Vol 1 Coipel Cvr: $49.99
* Secret Wars II Omnibus HC (McGuinness Cover): $49.99
* Secret Wars Omnibus HC: $49.99
* SquadronSupreme By Mark Gruenwald Omnibus HC: $37.49
* Squadron Supreme By Mark Gruenwald Omnibus HC Var: $37.49
* Thor By Michael Straczynski Omnibus HC Coipel Cvr: $32.49
* Thor By Walter Simonson Omnibus HC: $62.49
* Tomb Of Dracula Omnibus HC Vol 03 A Adams Cvr: $49.99
* Tomb Of Dracula Omnibus HC Vol 03 Colan DM Var Ed: $49.99
* Wolverine By Jason Aaron Omnibus HC Vol 01: $49.99
* Women Of Marvel Seven Decades Omnibus HC Coipel Cvr: $62.49
* Women Of Marvel Seven Decades Omnibus HC DM Var Ed: $62.49
* X-Men By Claremont And Lee Omnibus HC Vol 01: $62.49
* X-Men Omnibus HC Vol 02 Cassaday Cvr: $49.99
* X-Statix Omnibus HC: $62.49

[DBrewer75]

I am tempted to get Kree/Skrull because I have never read it. Is it pretty easy to "get" if you haven't read that much of the Avengers era it was released in?

[Omnibus]

Just got my Avengers Kree/Skrull War OHC in today and it's awesome! It may be one of the last really great values I'll get now that the new price hikes are starting to appear in the smaller collected editions (e.g. WATXM HC at $20 cover which equals $5 an issue). I got mine from Amazon before the price change from $30 to $35 and I got it for 48% off (i.e. $15.61).]

Looks really good and making me wish I did not cancel my preorder at the $15.61 price.

[Omnibus]

I saw that too. I was hoping Untold Tales of Spiderman would be on that list, but no.

There will be other sales and that title is still too new to be reduced. I am sure by the time we get to the year end sale both TOW and CGN will have it at 50% off.

I will be holding off on a lot of omnibus titles for these types of sales going forward as I currently only have three pre-orders left. One from B&N and the other two from Amazon when $125 books were listed as $100.

[ER Prest]

Everyone wins that way, but the Dark Tower omnibus does NOT have a lot of issues which justify a $150 pricetag which is what started this conversation. You're making the argument that it is fair to pay extra for all the extras and I am making the argument that extras should never be an excuse to justify a price hike.

You also use DVD special editions as an example and that is different due to the fact that it is impossible to add "more movie" (directors cut is a slight exception, but not really) because the movie is what it is. The only real way you can add value to a dvd set is to add more extras. On an omnibus you can almost ALWAYS increase the number of issues, whether that makes it a better set is up for debate.

From a comic perspective, no DT is not worth 150. However, whether you want/like/need extras is irrelevant, as the companion is prose and elaborates on the universe of DT as a whole...not just the comics. I understand what you're saying, that you only want the comics, but that's narrow eyed to say the least. The omni opened me up to the book series which is fantastic. And the companion is as amazing as the original book in it's own right. It has it's own set of stories apart from the comics(and apart from the novels the comics spawn from) I love extras, prose, essays, interviews, scripts, etc whatever. I really like reading how the book/s came about and extra stories.

[regomar]

Im questioning it because it is NOT bigger than Simonson Thor. Not even close. It is physically bigger and has a slipcase, but an entire book that is all extras does not make it bigger. In terms of story size its around the size of the Claremont/Lee x-men omnibus.

Now when amazon was selling at like 60% off it was a GREAT deal then.
Don't get me wrong its a beautiful set, but it wasn't even close to justifying its $150 cover price.

I keep hearing this from people who didn't read the 'extras' book. The second book is full of stories, new illustrations, maps, deep character bios and back story, etc... the detail and depth to which they examined the setting and back story are phenomenal. I enjoyed the second book more than the first.

People seem to be thinking it's just a book of the kind of extras that you'd find in an omni and that's just not the case. Pretending that there is no or little extra value from the second boo is just not true unless you're simply uninterested in the setting and stories from it. But if that';s the case, why buy it in the first place?

[regomar]

When I say content Im referring to the number of issues and the page count that is due to the actual issues. That's what I mean when I say that people would prefer to have more issues than extras.

You should be aware that you don't speak for everybody. Aside from myself and CrazyOldHermit, there have been many people on here that have expressed that they are happy with the content in Dark Tower. I doubt you'd be happy with me if I made the blanket statement 'People want all these extras and will be happy to pay for them'. Say what you mean. YOU would prefer. You don't speak for me or anyone else.

And once again, people keep pretending that the extras in the Dark Tower are similar to those in any other omnibus and that's just not the case.

The companion is FULL of stories, original art, maps, and in depth background. It's not even remotely comparable to normal extras which I myself almost never read.

[regomar]

From a perspective of a King/DT fan/constant reader those extras are the essence of DT omnibus. I could live without comics, but the extras are a great addition to dark tower universe

Damn right. I'm getting really sick of people who obviously don't care about the setting knocking the companion volume as if it were a 400 page collection of alternate covers when there's actually MORE story in the companion than in the main omni book. Glad some other people actually get what Marvel was going for there.

[Russ840]

Is there enough material for a Thanos omnibus of sorts.

What would the content be. ?

[regomar]

Is there enough material for a Thanos omnibus of sorts.

What would the content be. ?

My dream omnibus.

Aside from the obvious Infinity mini series, there is Thanos Quest (2 issues), the 12-issue Thanos miniseries, and numerous appearances in books mostly surrounding him like the 6-issue Cosmic Powers mini and appearances in Secret Defenders. Perhaps even Thanos Imperative could get put in there.

[Mobe1969]

But why can't extras count as content? Why are the two mutually exclusive?

They don't count to me as comic content... Dark Tower I briefly clanced at it and read some of the interviews and transcripts. But most of it seemed to just be reprinted material from the Furth DT concordance (which I have already) with pictures.

I think it a bad mistake honestly with DT as what are they going to do next omnibus? Either have a smallish onmibus with a pile of non comic limited value stuff in it? Or a normal single book so it doesn't match?

I'd have been happier with just maye a few pages of interviews or something. Even the con transcripts or whatever they had were pretty worthless, just all the team patting each other on the back.

[Russ840]

My dream omnibus.

Aside from the obvious Infinity mini series, there is Thanos Quest (2 issues), the 12-issue Thanos miniseries, and numerous appearances in books mostly surrounding him like the 6-issue Cosmic Powers mini and appearances in Secret Defenders. Perhaps even Thanos Imperative could get put in there.

I would love to read this stuff. I have no real knowledge of Thanos and subsequently never read any of the stories featuring him.

[ER Prest]

I keep hearing this from people who didn't read the 'extras' book. The second book is full of stories, new illustrations, maps, deep character bios and back story, etc... the detail and depth to which they examined the setting and back story are phenomenal. I enjoyed the second book more than the first.

People seem to be thinking it's just a book of the kind of extras that you'd find in an omni and that's just not the case. Pretending that there is no or little extra value from the second boo is just not true unless you're simply uninterested in the setting and stories from it. But if that';s the case, why buy it in the first place?

Pretty much what I was trying to say.