Marvel Omnibus/Oversized Hardcover Discussion Part IV

[Nova2814.1]

The Bishop's Crossing OHC in October will collect #12 & 13, and the back up stories from #10 & 11, but 17 to 24 haven't been collected in an OHC/Omnibus yet.

Thinking about this, I wonder how Marvel would package those issues, and the remaining issues up of X-Men/Uncanny X-Men to Age of Apocalypse.

X-Men #26 and Uncanny #307 are both collected in Bloodties, so that's those already taken care of.

A Phalanx Covenant OHC could include Uncanny #312 to 319 and X-Men #36 - 39, with Uncanny #306 included for good measure and minus Uncanny#315, already in Fatal Attractions. And while we're playing Fantasy OHC, it would also include the crossover issues of X-Force, Excalibur, X-Factor, Cable and Wolverine, as well as the first 4 issues of Generation X.

So that would leave X-Men #17 - 24, Uncanny #308 - 311, and X-Men #27 - 35. And that's not including any relevant Annuals or issues of X-Men Unlimited I've forgotten. Is there any common thread in those issues? From memory, the main stories are the wedding of Scott & Jean and the whole Revanche/Psylocke thing. There are other stories as well, but i think those are the main ones. Would those or the other stories be marketable enough to sell an OHC?

[LordJulius]

If the Jim Lee omnibus had been recolored I might be singing a slightly different tune on the $125 coverprice.

Yeah, but then Marvel would not be able to make people double-dip by buying a ridiculously priced recolored Mutant Genesis 2.0 OHC as well, would they?

[cloysterpete]

They are now using the glossy paper and I LOVE it. Krisis disagrees and that is of course his right. Marvel does a better job, but for $20 and 640 pages. Ill happily take it.

DC still has a LONG way to go before their omnibus reach the quality of Marvels, BUT DC omnibus ARE cheaper.

In short there is a trade off.

I'd love to buy some DC Omnibus but they don't seem to have any of the books I want out in omnibus style editions, where is Blackest Night?, New Krypton?, I thought seeing as they rebooted everything last year they would come out with a Green Lantern 2005 series omnibus in two series, same with Green Lantern Corps.

I don't get it, do DC only publish older material in the omnibus editions?.

[merrick97]

Yeah, but then Marvel would not be able to make people double-dip by buying a ridiculously priced recolored Mutant Genesis 2.0 OHC as well, would they?

I am willing to bet krisis, DonEMC and Omnibus would have!

But yeah, they wouldn't have been able to do that.

[merrick97]

Thinking about this, I wonder how Marvel would package those issues, and the remaining issues up of X-Men/Uncanny X-Men to Age of Apocalypse.

X-Men #26 and Uncanny #307 are both collected in Bloodties, so that's those already taken care of.

A Phalanx Covenant OHC could include Uncanny #312 to 319 and X-Men #36 - 39, with Uncanny #306 included for good measure and minus Uncanny#315, already in Fatal Attractions. And while we're playing Fantasy OHC, it would also include the crossover issues of X-Force, Excalibur, X-Factor, Cable and Wolverine, as well as the first 4 issues of Generation X.

So that would leave X-Men #17 - 24, Uncanny #308 - 311, and X-Men #27 - 35. And that's not including any relevant Annuals or issues of X-Men Unlimited I've forgotten. Is there any common thread in those issues? From memory, the main stories are the wedding of Scott & Jean and the whole Revanche/Psylocke thing. There are other stories as well, but i think those are the main ones. Would those or the other stories be marketable enough to sell an OHC?

YES. It's X-men. They are marketable. The issues could have poorly drawn pictures of Wolverine taking a crap and people would buy it.

[LordJulius]

I am willing to bet krisis, DonEMC and Omnibus would have!

But yeah, they wouldn't have been able to do that.

To me that is just a rip-off. Why not just recolor the whole Omni? The price tag would justify it.

I don't get it, do DC only publish older material in the omnibus editions?.

Some of those you mention will be out sooner or later. Remember that DC has only just begun to publish Omnis. And with the Infinite Crisis and 52 Omnis, there will be rather recent material in Omni-form soon (so are the Flash and Hawkman Omnis, btw).

For Final Crisis and Sinestro Corps War they decided on an Absolute. But in general it seems that sooner or later we will have all of Johns' and Morrison's work for DC in either Absolute or Omnibus format.

[Nova2814.1]

I'd love to buy some DC Omnibus but they don't seem to have any of the books I want out in omnibus style editions, where is Blackest Night?, New Krypton?, I thought seeing as they rebooted everything last year they would come out with a Green Lantern 2005 series omnibus in two series, same with Green Lantern Corps.

I don't get it, do DC only publish older material in the omnibus editions?.

They've only started getting into the Omnibus game in the last 12 months, so I'd say they're focusing on older material that isn't readily available in other formats right now. The Green Lantern stuff is still around (in paperback if not hardcover), especially after the movie last year, and the New Krypton stuff is probably the same.

Omnis like 52, Infinite Crisis, The Invisibles, Geoff Johns Flash, etc, are old enough to not cut off significant revenue streams for DC while still being current enough and high profile enough to be marketable.

[Nova2814.1]

YES. It's X-men. They are marketable. The issues could have poorly drawn pictures of Wolverine taking a crap and people would buy it.

Well, that's the variant cover sorted then

[Rimmer]

YES. It's X-men. They are marketable. The issues could have poorly drawn pictures of Wolverine taking a crap and people would buy it.

I always used that thinking when it came to Star Wars - You put a turd in a box and label it "Star Wars turd" someone will buy it. I guess Wolverine is taking over that role nowadays.

/offtopic I LOVE the fact that my 5 year old son still thinks the original trilogy is a million times better than the prequels. He's become quite the SW fan in the past few months, and I'm digging it. I haven't watched the movies this much since back when they first came out on VHS...

[regomar]

Cheers Regimar!, how long you been collecting to get your collection up to that standard?.

It's funny how you've got the massive Dark Tower Omnibus next to those little ones (premier editions?), it makes those weedy books look minute. What are those books to the left of the omnibus editions?, are they omni editions from a time where Marvel didn't write it in the spine?.

I have to say I prefer the spines of all the OHC, like Civil War & New Avengers, they look so much better that the black ones for the omni.

I've been collecting collected editions since early 2010 with an average budget of $100 a month or so and LOTS of deal searching and cheap prices (thanks to this thread!)

Thanks :) The Dark Tower Omni case acts as a book-end for the trades I have up there since it's the heaviest omni and it just won't be budged.

The OHCs to the left of the omnis are mostly large X-Men OHCs that most of us here can't figure out WHY they aren't omnibuses, some of which aren't old at all. Marvel seems to roll a die to see if an X-Men release will be labeled an omni or OHC lately, there's just no rhyme nor reason for it, which irritates me considerably.

[Omnibus]

I am willing to bet krisis, DonEMC and Omnibus would have!

But yeah, they wouldn't have been able to do that.

I canceled my preorder for Mutant Genesis 2.0.....will wait for a bargain book price on that.

But yes I will double dip and sell my OHC's to upgrade to an Omnibus.

[regomar]

Umm nothing to do with Rising Stars but could I ask what the thicker Mighty Avengers OHC is?, I have the volume 1 but I didn't realise there were other volumes. I look on Amazon and they list Mighty Avengers Dark Reign OHC but it doesn't say which issues it collects so I don't know if it follows on from volume 1.

Dark Reign. It's by FAR my favorite collection of Mighty Avengers and is centered around Hank Pym's team. There are actually 3 Mighty Avengers OHCs, the other is Secret Invasion which I didn't buy in OHC since I already have it in trades (second photo) and it really wasn't that good. Secret Invasion picks up the numbering after your volume, and Dark Reign completes it, though the Dark Reign book really stands by itself and is only tangentially related to the other two volumes.

[regomar]

Regomar
I noticed Avengers Initiative in softcover on your shelf. I have volumes 1-3 from Slott. You have two more Avengers Initiative after those?
Are those any good? Are they needed? Volume 3 ends when the skrull invasion starts. Can you recommend?
Thanks

I have 3 more actually, the 6th one has a different color spine to fit in with the Siege tie-ins.

Buy them. Buy them right now, heh. The tone of the book morphs quite significantly, but it's consistently good till the last issue. Highly recommended.

[regomar]

Yeah, but then Marvel would not be able to make people double-dip by buying a ridiculously priced recolored Mutant Genesis 2.0 OHC as well, would they?

I want to see those issues recolored SO bad but damnit... NO! I am NOT buying that! Stupid expensive for an obvious double-dip.

[krisis]

With that in mind here is a question:

Would you be willing to take a slight quality hit if the coverprice of the Marvel omnibus goes down by about 30%?

Its an interesting thought because the Jim Lee Vol1 X-men omnibus at a coverprice of $80 is much more reasonable me thinks.

Absolutely not. When Marvel dedicates to a quality on a line they should be committing to that for the duration of the line. It really, really bothers me that they changed paper weight/brightness midway through Classics/Visionaries lines last year. I would have rather the price point went up a few dollars to maintain consistency.

Similarly, I'm happy to pay more for MMW to maintain the exact quality specifications, but this is from someone who probably only has another 4-5 MMWs in the lines I collect before they're done :)

Thinking about this, I wonder how Marvel would package those issues, and the remaining issues up of X-Men/Uncanny X-Men to Age of Apocalypse.

X-Men #26 and Uncanny #307 are both collected in Bloodties, so that's those already taken care of.

A Phalanx Covenant OHC could include Uncanny #312 to 319 and X-Men #36 - 39, with Uncanny #306 included for good measure and minus Uncanny#315, already in Fatal Attractions. And while we're playing Fantasy OHC, it would also include the crossover issues of X-Force, Excalibur, X-Factor, Cable and Wolverine, as well as the first 4 issues of Generation X.

So that would leave X-Men #17 - 24, Uncanny #308 - 311, and X-Men #27 - 35. And that's not including any relevant Annuals or issues of X-Men Unlimited I've forgotten. Is there any common thread in those issues? From memory, the main stories are the wedding of Scott & Jean and the whole Revanche/Psylocke thing. There are other stories as well, but i think those are the main ones. Would those or the other stories be marketable enough to sell an OHC?

I think X-Men, Vol. 2 is going to go the MPC route for everything post-X-Cutioner's, just like X-Force and Avengers West Coast. Marvel knows how many of those issues are still in circulation, and they are not going to compete with that by using OHCs after the Jim Lee material other than for multi-title crossovers.

I would be delighted to be proven wrong, but I think the awful choice to send Bloodties to MPC sealed the deal.

I am willing to bet krisis, DonEMC and Omnibus would have!

But yeah, they wouldn't have been able to do that.

Pshaw, I don't double-dip unless it's for bigger original art - and when I say original, I mean colors, too. I *MIGHT* have skipped the Jim Lee Omni if it was recolored in favor of other TPB collections, and I'm not picking up the 2.0 recolor.

I'm slowly working my way towards selling off things I collected in TPB that subsequently came out in OHC (yeah, I know, more profit it I sold them sooner, but I hate putting things in the mail - ironic, considering how much I like to receive things :)

/offtopic I LOVE the fact that my 5 year old son still thinks the original trilogy is a million times better than the prequels. He's become quite the SW fan in the past few months, and I'm digging it. I haven't watched the movies this much since back when they first came out on VHS...

That warms my heart :) I bought the full set on DVD when it included the original, unretouched films, as I figured that was my best chance to get them, and not a month goes by when I don't have one on in the background while I am writing or researching something.