Marvel Omnibus/Oversized Hardcover Discussion Part IV

[NZ_InFerno]

What's so great about book depository? A quick search reveals that their prices aren't very good.

Free shipping worldwide. Usually you can get books 30% off rrp on release so pretty good deals for someone in NZ, like me, where pricing is double US price plus 25%.

[AaronStC]

I think we established last year that BD was typically the combination of cheapest/safest for people outside of the US? I'd have to pull up my notes from that discussion - I suppose it's about time for a repost! :)

Free shipping worldwide. Usually you can get books 30% off rrp on release so pretty good deals for someone in NZ, like me, where pricing is double US price plus 25%.

Oh, OK. That makes sense. In the US you can easily get greater than 30% off (don't mean to rub it in).

[krisis]

I think it's great those "stranded" issues get collected.

But you gotta admit, this is easily the weakest X-collection ever made, in terms of story quality. Those solicits sure try their best to sell it, tho. Those "Into the Void" and Morlocks issues are just not very good, and the Hazard issues are quite plain, too.

Where's UXM Annual #16? :(

I don't know about "weakest ever." The initial Bishop run is strong stuff, and at the time was quite shocking. The rest is meh.

Annual #16 was part of the Shattershot crossover, and Annual crossovers generally have not made an appearance in the OHCs. One would hope we eventually get a TPB of them, maybe combining all three of Days of Future Present, Kings of Pain, and Shattershot for the sake of efficiency :)

(That said, DoFP was collected in an older OOP TPB, and Kings of Pain was collected with zero fanfare into New Warriors Classic, Vol. 2., still in print.)

[NickFury90]

MAN-THING OMNIBUS HC OLIVETTI COVER
Written by ROY THOMAS, GERRY CONWAY, STEVE GERBER, TONY ISABELLA, LEN WEIN, MARV WOLFMAN, CHRIS CLAREMONT, RALPH MACCHIO, MICHAEL FLEISHER, DOUG MCKENZIE, JM DEMATTEIS
Penciled by GRAY MORROW, JOHN BUSCEMA, RICH BUCKLER, JIM STARLIN, VAL MAYERIK, MIKE PLOOG, ALFREDO ALCALA, VICENTE ALCAZAR, RICO RIVAL, ED HANNIGAN, RON WILSON, JIM MOONEY, TOM SUTTON, JOHN BYRNE, DON PERLIN, GENE COLAN, LARRY HAMA & PAT BRODERICK
Covers by ARIEL OLIVETTI & FRANK BRUNNER
Neither wholly plant nor animal, neither entirely self-aware nor totally non-sentient, the creature called the Man-Thing is unique, unchanging and alone — but none who encounter him can ever be the same again. Empathic by nature and drawn to fight evil, his shambling visage inspires fear — and whatever knows fear burns at the Man-Thing’s touch. Whether danger rises from the swamp or the city, the past or the future, outer space or the human soul, the Man-Thing awaits! Collecting ASTONISHING TALES (1970) #12-13; FEAR #11-18, and material from #10 and #19; MAN-THING (1974) #1-22, GIANT-SIZE MAN-THING #1-3 and material from #4-5, INCREDIBLE HULK (1968) #197-198; MARVEL TEAM-UP (1972) #68; MARVEL TWO-IN-ONE #43; MAN-THING (1979) #1-11; DR. STRANGE (1974) #41; and material from SAVAGE TALES (1971) #1, MONSTERS UNLEASHED #5 and #8-9, and RAMPAGING HULK (1977) #7.
1192 PGS./Parental Advisory …$125.00
ISBN: 978-0-7851-6463-0
Trim size: oversized

[CSPDX]

Please envision me jumping up and down in my cube. Assuming this will be an OHC, this means we now have an oversized stretch of Uncanny from #235-305! And, this is the first EVER collection of #281, to the best of my knowledge.

Can the same be said for any other title from 1980-2000?

And, do we think #305 will be the end of the line, or will they also fill in the space between there and the the next oversized issues in the AOA Omnibus?

Isn't UXM 305 the issue that reintroduces Camron Hodge and prefaces the Phalanx, where Angel and Jean meet the Candy Southern construct? My guess is they're saving that issue for the eventual Phalanx Conenant OHC, perhaps. That would get us through UXM317 iirc, assuming all those UXM issues would be included.

On the Bishop's Crossing OHC... I actually was able to pick up almost every issue they're reprinting in this book at Emerald City for a buck a book, and I've just started reading through 'em. And... yeah, not great to start out with. Bishop's first appearance in UXM 283 is probably just about the ugliest comic I've ever seen, and it doesn't look like it's going to get much better unitl Kubert starts up. Just confusing, ugly artwork that's pretty dang bad storytelling. I'm still going to get it to fill the hole, though, so I guess I can't complain too much.

[kodave]

Considering his Wolverine and Ghost rider runs were "omnibused" pretty quickly chances are very good. Although I would also say the chances of the Garth Ennis MAX run being omnibused before this is even more likely, which may mean you would have to wait.

Why would you think that? Just take a moment and stare at Ennis' Punisher Max Vol 1-5 lined up on a shelf in OSHC form. That itself would possibly be a record setting Omnibus at 1488 pages for those 5 volumes. It might not even be possible to bind that in one book a readable fashion. Then you've still got 384 pages for Born, First to Last collection, and the Barracuda Max mini. And then for completionists sake, there's Vol 6 which is another 424 pages. If you combined those minis and Vol 6 you would have 808 pages. All of Ennis' work together would be 1872. If you include the Volume 6 stuff, that's 2296 pages. IF the Omnibus collecting community would be so lucky as to get Ennis' Punisher Max in Omnibus form, the primary works would be either the biggest Omnibus to date or it would have to be split into two Omnibus books. If you split it into two volumes, you could put the Born/FTL/Barracuda stuff in the 2nd volume and keep it strictly Ennis based material. I think realistically you'd probably be looking at probably 2 primary Omnibuses and 1 companion Omnibus that includes the minis and non Ennis Vol 6. And I just don't see that happening any time soon.

On the other hand, Aaron is a current Marvel writer with a couple of Omnibus' under his belt, and PunisherMAX is a neat 22 issue completed series that's somewhere north of 500 pages of material, which would fall in between the Death of Captain America and the Captain America Lives Omnibuses size wise. PunisherMAX has also never been published in oversized format. It seems to me like an Aaron PunisherMAX Omnibus is a million times more likely to hit our bookshelves than an Ennis Punisher Max Omnibus. I'd put money on a Ennis Marvel Knights Punisher Omnibus reprint over an Ennis Punisher Max Omnibus

From KingOtterpop on MMW board

MAN-THING OMNIBUS HC

(W/A) Various (CA) Ariel Olivetti
Neither wholly plant nor animal, neither entirely self-aware nor totally non-sentient, the creature called the Man-Thing is unique, unchanging and alone - but none who encounter him can ever be the same again. Empathic by nature and drawn to fight evil, his shambling visage inspires fear - and whatever knows fear burns at the Man-Thing's touch. Whether danger rises from the swamp or the city, the past or the future, outer space or the human soul, the Man-Thing awaits! Collecting ASTONISHING TALES (1970) #12-13; FEAR #11-18, and material from #10 and #19; MAN-THING (1974) #1-22, GIANT-SIZE MAN-THING #1-3 and material from #4-5, INCREDIBLE HULK (1968) #197-198; MARVEL TEAM-UP (1972) #68; MARVEL TWO-IN-ONE #43; MAN-THING (1979) #1-11; DR. STRANGE (1974) #41; and material from SAVAGE TALES (1971) #1, MONSTERS UNLEASHED #5 and #8-9, and RAMPAGING HULK (1977) #7.

Do want. I guess that makes 3 Omnibuses on my radar for this year with Secret Warriors, Remender's Punisher, and now Man-Thing.

[Awesome!]

Freaking ebay....

Guy puts a book in a box with zero padding (amazon-style) and then says "Sorry I thought I packaged it securely" when I bitch about dented corners. This was with a $9 shipping charge which he has offered to refund. I'm seriously thinking about saying no to that and just leaving negative feedback.

[merrick97]

Freaking ebay....

Guy puts a book in a box with zero padding (amazon-style) and then says "Sorry I thought I packaged it securely" when I bitch about dented corners. This was with a $9 shipping charge which he has offered to refund. I'm seriously thinking about saying no to that and just leaving negative feedback.

Not to get too far off topic. But please be careful about leaving negative feedback. Give him EVERY chance to make it right.

[krisis]

Isn't UXM 305 the issue that reintroduces Camron Hodge and prefaces the Phalanx, where Angel and Jean meet the Candy Southern construct? My guess is they're saving that issue for the eventual Phalanx Conenant OHC, perhaps. That would get us through UXM317 iirc, assuming all those UXM issues would be included.

Indeed, both #305 and #317 are solicited in the Fatal Attractions OHC. It struck me as odd to push them to fit there, as they would make perfect bookends for a subsequent #305-317 OHC, but since #306 is in the Bloodties MPC I suppose Jeph just didn't want #305 to get marooned? Either way, it does not excuse the weirdness of the mid-crossover #317 being included.

(So, weirdly, we'll probably never get #306 in OHC, even though that brief four-issue crossover would have been a much more relevant add to the OHC than #305/#317.)

Not to get too far off topic. But please be careful about leaving negative feedback. Give him EVERY chance to make it right.

What reason is there to be careful? The guy mailed a poorly packaged item that was damaged. Future buyers need a warning - I know I'd like to receive one before buying from him. Nothing he does is going to make up for the annoyance and wasted time/money he caused.

[studioremark]

Not to get too far off topic. But please be careful about leaving negative feedback. Give him EVERY chance to make it right.

I recently went through the process of contacting the seller after having had a similar problem with shipping... unfortunately, they ignored me and, after a week, I left negative feedback. It was just so bizarre... $6.99 shipping for a masterwork that they 'packaged' in a single sheet of newspaper. There was no box, just a sheet from a newspaper that was wrapped and taped around the book. It arrived with the newspaper shredded (a miracle that my address hadn't fallen off) and what I'd describe as a 'chuck' actually missing from a top corner of the hardcover.

[Awesome!]

What reason is there to be careful? The guy mailed a poorly packaged item that was damaged. Future buyers need a warning - I know I'd like to receive one before buying from him. Nothing he does is going to make up for the annoyance and wasted time/money he caused.

That's the thing, he has over 700 feedback and it's 100% positive. I asked if this was how he normally shipped expensive books (it was an absolute) because it was strange given his great feedback. He didn't answer that though so I have no idea if he just ran out of bubble wrap/newspaper and didn't care or what.

[kodave]

Freaking ebay....

Guy puts a book in a box with zero padding (amazon-style) and then says "Sorry I thought I packaged it securely" when I bitch about dented corners. This was with a $9 shipping charge which he has offered to refund. I'm seriously thinking about saying no to that and just leaving negative feedback.

You could always take the shipping refund AND leave him a negative. But he could also go psycho on you for that, or something.

[Awesome!]

That would make me feel like a total dick though.

[Captain Planet]

I recently went through the process of contacting the seller after having had a similar problem with shipping... unfortunately, they ignored me and, after a week, I left negative feedback. It was just so bizarre... $6.99 shipping for a masterwork that they 'packaged' in a single sheet of newspaper. There was no box, just a sheet from a newspaper that was wrapped and taped around the book. It arrived with the newspaper shredded (a miracle that my address hadn't fallen off) and what I'd describe as a 'chuck' actually missing from a top corner of the hardcover.

Wait, what? You mean he wrapped it in newspaper and then stuck it in an envelope or he really just wrapped it in newspaper, put the label on the newspaper and sent it on its merry way? Was the book damaged? I would blast him for that. I always try to leave accurate feedback about packaging after all the headaches I've had with sellers.

[Captain Planet]

That would make me feel like a total dick though.

Maybe. I would take the refund because he owes you that. But its totally fair to leave feedback with your experience. That is what feedback is for. You getting a refund doesn't help the next person know that if he orders from this seller his book has a high chance of getting damaged. I wouldn't look at it as blasting him as much as be honest about it so other buyers know what they can expect.