Invincible

[capuga]

Was there any hinting at an affair between Eve and Bulletproof, or was that just me?

From a conversation going on over on the Image boards:

The real reason Eve got rid of the baby was because it was Bulletproof's. ;)

I know you're joking so you will not have to feel the wrath of my rant on how there is no way Eve cheated on Mark before he left for space (or since I don't believe). That said I'm going to type something that pains me and I hope with all my poor fanboy heart is not true:

I've had a terrible feeling that Kirkman has been setting up an Eve / Bulletproof relationship since Mark came back from space and Eve said that Bulletproof was helping her out with the business.

It's the same feeling I got this issue when Bulletproof was comforting / helping her out.

Not that she currently has feelings for him but that Kirkman is planting the seeds. Or maybe I'm just overly sensitive to this because of how invested in / how much I care about Mark and Eve together.

And I will say that this would leave this fanboy completely heartbroken. I'm honestly not sure that I'm exaggerating when I say that this would probably hurt me as much as finding out my real wife actually cheated on me. Please Kirkman, do not have Eve develop feelings for Bulletproof. This fan will turn into a little crybaby bitch.

I'm still holding out hope that issue 100 will feature a Mark/Eve wedding.

And, yes, before you all pile on I know that I sound like a woman right now. :D



To add to my thoughts there and answer your question - No, I very much doubt that Eve would have cheated on Mark. If anything, it's just laying the seeds for a future relationship.

[MythicBrawn]

I don't think Eve and Bulletproof are remotely anything. Friends, no problem. She seems way too invested in Mark to be looking at someone else. I'm just thinking about what future Eve told Mark about how bad she felt when her universe lost its Mark/Invincible. But then, it could be a case similar to the Walking Dead. Rick was gone and Lori hooked up with Shane. Once Rick returned, she spurned Shane, which lead to Shane's demise. I certainly don't get any hint that Bulletproof is interested in Eve and he wouldn't last long against Mark anyway.

On Mark being a possible heir, maybe he could fight Thragg for the rights/privilege. If Mark thought his battle with Conquest was tough, I would hate to imagine the devastation Thragg would cause. Also, where was Oliver while all this was going on this issue? I guess he's hiding out on the COP ship. He doesn't want to encounter Thragg again. Their first meeting cost him an arm and a chin.

[capuga]

I don't think Eve and Bulletproof are remotely anything. Friends, no problem. She seems way too invested in Mark to be looking at someone else. I'm just thinking about what future Eve told Mark about how bad she felt when her universe lost its Mark/Invincible. But then, it could be a case similar to the Walking Dead. Rick was gone and Lori hooked up with Shane. Once Rick returned, she spurned Shane, which lead to Shane's demise. I certainly don't get any hint that Bulletproof is interested in Eve and he wouldn't last long against Mark anyway.

Thank you sir. These kind of thoughts make me feel better about my favorite couple in comics.

On Mark being a possible heir, maybe he could fight Thragg for the rights/privilege. If Mark thought his battle with Conquest was tough, I would hate to imagine the devastation Thragg would cause. Also, where was Oliver while all this was going on this issue? I guess he's hiding out on the COP ship. He doesn't want to encounter Thragg again. Their first meeting cost him an arm and a chin.

Oliver was on the V base with the other characters waiting on news of Mark. You could see him in the background of a couple of panels. He's lucky (in fact most of the characters in this book are)that Thragg can keep his temper in control and not just destroy all these people that have been bothering him.

[The Shogun]

I want to start reading invincible but im a NOTORIOUSLY slow reader. I take a long time looking at the art and this is almost up to 90 issues right? Dont know how long it would take me to read since I also have a lot of hellblazer to catch up to.

[capuga]

I want to start reading invincible but im a NOTORIOUSLY slow reader. I take a long time looking at the art and this is almost up to 90 issues right? Dont know how long it would take me to read since I also have a lot of hellblazer to catch up to.

From early in the thread, some ideas on how to catch up, even if you want to do it quickly and on the cheap:

It is presumably a good place to jump on.

That said, this series is AWESOME and best if read from the beginning. Invest in the trades (currently 15 of them) or the hardcovers (there will be 7 after this Wednesday) and you won't be disappointed. If that is too much I would recommend this:

- Track down a copy of issue #0. It was a jumping on point / recap issue that was released when the series was in the mid-#20's and gives an early history of the series.
- Pick up a copy of Invincible Returns #1 (this should be much easier to find). This is another jumping on point / recap issue released just after issue #70 an gives some of the more recent history of the series.
- This leads directly into the Viltrumite War which is one of the bigger events in the series and leads into current events. So I wouldn't skip it. I'd pick up trades 14 and 15 which get you up to issue 84.
- Then the singles for 84 through 89 (coming out next week).

You'd miss some good stuff this way (particularly the Conquest arc that happens just before the Invincible Returns issue) and the events won't have as much impact because you won't have built the attachment and history to the characters but it wouldn't be a bad way to get caught up for fairly cheap.

Or just read the Wikipedia info and jump on with issue 89. Always good to have new readers join up.

[Genki Sudo]

I want to start reading invincible but im a NOTORIOUSLY slow reader. I take a long time looking at the art and this is almost up to 90 issues right? Dont know how long it would take me to read since I also have a lot of hellblazer to catch up to.

Start with the just released issue, after what makes the first hardcover of the first ultimate collection I have a long absence from the title and besides getting the handbook I was pretty much able to get what's going on

You can start from the beginning only if you really want to and have the money for it

[Celestin]

About Eve and Bulletproof - I strongly doubt she would ever cheat on Mark, but from the scene in the last issue where he is comforting her I got a feeling that a new Invincible may have feelings for her. We will see if it will turn out to be a truth.

Also, I can't wait to finally discover what happened between Rex and Monster Girl. I hope it will live up to such a long wait.

[ImpulseUCF]

I want to start reading invincible but im a NOTORIOUSLY slow reader. I take a long time looking at the art and this is almost up to 90 issues right? Dont know how long it would take me to read since I also have a lot of hellblazer to catch up to.

If you like to take your time to look at the art, then you reaaaally want to get all of the issues with gorgeous Ryan Ottley art. This is one of the best drawn books in the industry.

If you MUST get started now, the most recent issue is decent enough that you could probably understand what is happening, but you would really really really REALLY be missing out on an incredible story with tons of character moments and a great, over-arching plot. Basically, you'd miss everything that shows why this is a good series. :P

[wiski]

About Eve and Bulletproof - I strongly doubt she would ever cheat on Mark, but from the scene in the last issue where he is comforting her I got a feeling that a new Invincible may have feelings for her. We will see if it will turn out to be a truth.

Yeah, I really doubt there is anything going on between Eve and Bulletproof. It's more likely that Bulletproof is just a nice guy, which has been seen in the past. He's also older than most of the heroes he hangs around with, so it might be a sort of fatherly concern type of thing.

[Libaax]

I laughed, and like so much how they played with the idea of Bulletproof as Invincible. Bold new direction and everything, nice joke. Toying with lame DC/Marvel things that thinks making Spiderman nr.5 in Ultimate black is the boldest thing in superhero.

I like seeing minor characters like Bulletproof doing something even if he will never be Invincible for long. Biggest flaw of Invincible,Kirman writing is he doesnt develop the supporting cast heroes nearly as well as he does in TWD. Eve,Mark and co isnt enough.

[capuga]

I laughed, and like so much how they played with the idea of Bulletproof as Invincible. Bold new direction and everything, nice joke. Toying with lame DC/Marvel things that thinks making Spiderman nr.5 in Ultimate black is the boldest thing in superhero.

I like seeing minor characters like Bulletproof doing something even if he will never be Invincible for long. Biggest flaw of Invincible,Kirman writing is he doesnt develop the supporting cast heroes nearly as well as he does in TWD. Eve,Mark and co isnt enough.

Firstly, the teaser for the new black Invincible was released months before any news about the new Ultimate Spiderman. Second, I have to disagree with your opinion on the supporting characters. Invincible has a very rich cast of well developed supporting characters beyond Mark, Eve, and the Graysons - Robot, Monster Girl, Bulletproof, Duplicate, Immortal, Black Sampson, Shapesmith, Art, William, Rick Sheridan, Cecil, and others have all been given significant screen time and development. Kirkman's now adding Thragg and the other Viltrumites, Dinosaurus, new Guardians of the Globe members, and a few others.

The large, interesting, and well defined supporting cast is one of the strengths of this title. I feel they are a prominent and well developed part of the story.

[Libaax]

Firstly, the teaser for the new black Invincible was released months before any news about the new Ultimate Spiderman. Second, I have to disagree with your opinion on the supporting characters. Invincible has a very rich cast of well developed supporting characters beyond Mark, Eve, and the Graysons - Robot, Monster Girl, Bulletproof, Duplicate, Immortal, Black Sampson, Shapesmith, Art, William, Rick Sheridan, Cecil, and others have all been given significant screen time and development. Kirkman's now adding Thragg and the other Viltrumites, Dinosaurus, new Guardians of the Globe members, and a few others.

The large, interesting, and well defined supporting cast is one of the strengths of this title. I feel they are a prominent and well developed part of the story.

I was using Spiderman as example only, there have been 3-4 Spiderman before that kid. I wasnt talking about the black hero replacement but the fact that legacy heroes is big thing when big two want to change into bold in new direction.

Thragg is new character, i was thinking about Kirkman has many interesting old support characters he can do more with. There are many minor hero characters i like in Invincible world like Brit,Bulletproof, Robot,Monster Girl and co but my point was there havent been much about them. He is changing that first now with the issues coming about Monster Girl,Robot in that other universe. I bought Guardians mini and was the worst superhero i had read by Kirkman. He is good with supporting hero roles but it has been too much Mark, his family,Eve for my taste.

He is better using villain roles Thragg,Conquest, Angstrom Levy and co. I have been reading Invincible for many years and i dont believe he is as flawless as you think with this series. It has become more regular marvel, dc superhero than the fun young hero series it was years ago. It has had its up and downs. Now its up for me again because using the support roles better. You seem to think everything is great all the time in Invincible and respectfully i dont agree.

[Dinosore]

Has anyone put forward a theory that Thragg is Mark (or a descendant of his) from the future? Because I was rereading the series and the idea popped in my head. They have the same eye color, very similar facial structures, and Thragg keeps talking about how important Mark is specifically. Plus that whole "match" thing Thragg popped that unfortunate alien for.

I'm probably not on the right track at all, but I figured I'd put it out there.

[wiski]

I don't think he's either Mark or a descendant of his from the future, or he (Thragg) probably would have known more about him (Mark) immediately.

On the case of the supporting cast, I think they are very well developed, even without considering that a lot of them have either starred in or been in other series besides Invincible. But I also greatly enjoy seeing the supporting cast step up more into the spotlight, since most of them are awesome.

[MythicBrawn]

I think the DNA match could be that Mark meets the criteria to be the next Regent. We don't know how they're chosen and it doesn't have to be so limited as to be a blood relation. When Viltrumites find the match in their offspring, they pull that baby aside and train him from birth. Unfortunately, the pickings have been slim since the Scourge virus. Mark could be the Neo (f/ Matrix fame) of the Viltrumite race.