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    Quote Originally Posted by Libaax View Post
    Heh you havent read Animal Man? One of the most hailed comics from DC/Marvel at the moment. I respect him alot for that comics only, he has made Animal Man that i never cared for to be so creepy,weird wonderful read. I dont read his JLD or whatever else team book he is writing.

    His Animal Man is old school DCU comics that is dark,horror combined with Superhero. Its like reading horror in Vertigo, almost Hellblazer like.
    Yes, 9 issues without any progression whatsoever. I was very happy when Foreman left so I could stop buying it.
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    Hello, I would like to suggest a Milligan work that has not been mentioned yet in this thread:
    The Bronx kill a black&white Original Graphic Novel published under the Vertigo Crime imprint.
    I found it pretty good, and for sure one of the best, if not best, book of the Vertigo Crime collection.
    Just keep in mind this is a "noir" story, there is deep characters psychology but not the psychedelic side you may love and serch in Milligan work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pralaya View Post
    Hello.
    I had the opportunity to meet Peter Milligan in person, several years ago.
    It happened in Italy during a Comic Convention in Terni (a city in the center of Italy).
    Milligan was one of the main guests of the convention.

    Unfortunately there were very few people to listen to his interviews/lectures... but keep in mind we were in the center of rural Italy.
    Even if I was not part of the staff, I was involved with the organization, and I worked with a local radio/television, so I was kind of a journalist.

    When the opportunity presented itself and he was alone with an escort/translator, I introduced myself and congratuleted for his works, especially "Shade the changing man".
    Our chat has been brief because I didn't want to be invasive and I was intimidated because, being italian, my spoken english it's terrible and I understand with difficult.
    So I shook his hand and wish him the best of luck.

    During the years I heard Milligan has eccentric behaviors, with me he has been very placid.
    Hello and nice of you to come here!

    I always assumed while Milligan (and Morrison and others like them) might have their eccentric behaviors and beliefs, that they would be very calm and easy to talk to.

    So, what was his speech about?

    Also, I would LOVE to visit other countries' comic convention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinRedmond View Post
    Yes, 9 issues without any progression whatsoever. I was very happy when Foreman left so I could stop buying it.
    Have you check out Lemire's Topshelf works? The stories he did for them are really where his strengths lie.
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    Read the Bronx Kill. It was a nice read. Should read the rest of the Vertigo Crime novels (only read three so far).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny P. Sartre View Post
    Hello and nice of you to come here!

    I always assumed while Milligan (and Morrison and others like them) might have their eccentric behaviors and beliefs, that they would be very calm and easy to talk to.

    So, what was his speech about?

    Also, I would LOVE to visit other countries' comic convention.
    Hi, and thank you for your welcome.

    Unfortunately I had not opportunity to partecipate Milligan speeches, because during the first one I was at work, and he refused to do the second one because we were only 5 audience... sad but true.

    I can say when I talked to him personally he seemed genuinely pleased to speak with a fan of him.
    To be honest I can't remember exatly how the chat went, my memory is not very strong, he only informed me about the new reprint of the collection of the first numbers of Shade.

    If one day you will have the opportunity to visit an Italian Comic Convention I will recommend Napoli Comic Con, it is usually considered the convention with the higher cultural impact.

    Anyway the italian comic book market is totally different from the US one: we have not pinned 20-32 pages comic books. Even DC/Vertigo, Marvel, Image material localized is all TPB.
    I buy digital comics in english on Comixology, Dark Horse Digital and Viz Manga since years, still I have the same attitude: I wait until a story arc will end before buying the single issues;
    I barely remember what I had for lunch yesterday so I take no pleasure in reading a story arc in 2-6 months, 24 pages a month, I will not remember anything, it will end only be frustrating.

    Also in Italy we have a huge publisher, Sergio Bonelli Editore, who sells especially in newsagents, I guess this is strange enough for the US Market.
    You may have heard some famous Sergio Bonelli character like the western hero Tex, or the paranormal investigator Dylan Dog.
    They sold hundreds of thousands of copies each only in Italy, in newsagents... odd, isn't it.
    I don't read Sergio Bonelli comics anymore because I can't stand they predictable, rethorical storytelling;
    by the way usually the format is: almost 100 pages a month (a complete story), black&white, about €3... it's cheap, and it works for the italians.
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    Wish I could meet Milligan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny P. Sartre View Post
    Have you check out Lemire's Topshelf works? The stories he did for them are really where his strengths lie.
    Probably Essex County by Jeff Lemire (published by Top Shelf) is a masterpiece... I use this word very rarely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pralaya View Post
    Hello, I would like to suggest a Milligan work that has not been mentioned yet in this thread:
    The Bronx kills a black&white Original Graphic Novel published under the Vertigo Crime imprint.
    I found it pretty good, and for sure one of the best, if not best, book of the Vertigo Crime collection.
    Just keep in mind this is a "noir" story, there is deep characters psychology but not the psychedelic side you may love and serch in Milligan work.
    The Bronx Kill is great, and I'd second that it's the best book in the line. James Romberger is such an underrated artist.

    (Second best book is actually Ratcatcher, even though it's so obviously Diggle's movie script for a Denzel Washington or Morgan Freeman thriller.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pralaya View Post
    To be honest I can't remember exactly how the chat went, my memory is not very strong, he only informed me about the new reprint of the collection of the first numbers of Shade.
    God! I hope this comes out soon.

    Actually, an omnibus or deluxe hardcover version for the series would work.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pralaya View Post
    If one day you will have the opportunity to visit an Italian Comic Convention I will recommend Napoli Comic Con, it is usually considered the convention with the higher cultural impact.

    Anyway the italian comic book market is totally different from the US one: we have not pinned 20-32 pages comic books. Even DC/Vertigo, Marvel, Image material localized is all TB.
    I buy digital comics in english on Comixology, Dark Horse Digital and Viz Manga since years, still I have the same attitude: I wait until a story arc will end before buying the single issues;
    I barely remember what I had for lunch yesterday so I take no pleasure in reading a story arc in 2-6 months, 24 pages a month, I will not remember anything, it will end only be frustrating.
    I'm a huge fan of European format and I wish American comic would just fucking transfer to that. A lot of the stories (American) nowadays are built for that format and reading a single arc last for a few months irks me. This is especially true when the arc itself is read better as a whole than in parts.

    While there are comics using that format, there's not enough comics doing it. OR make it in magazine form (e.g. Heavy Metal, 2000AD, Pilote, Suivre) so I can get more bang for my buck.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pralaya View Post
    Also in Italy we have a huge publisher, Sergio Bonelli Editore, who sells especially in newsagents, I guess this is strange enough for the US Market.
    You may have heard some famous Sergio Bonelli character like the western hero Tex, or the paranormal investigator Dylan Dog.
    They sold hundreds of thousands of copies each only in Italy, in newsagents... odd, isn't it.
    I don't read Sergio Bonelli comics anymore because I can't stand they predictable, rethorical storytelling;
    by the way usually the format is: almost 100 pages a month (a complete story), black&white, about €3... it's cheap, and it works for the italians.
    I've never read Bonelli but I have read Dylan Dog.

    I enjoyed Dog, was a bit dated but still entertaining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny P. Sartre View Post
    Have you check out Lemire's Topshelf works? The stories he did for them are really where his strengths lie.
    It wouldn't put me off trying Sweet Tooth, but no more super heroes by Lemire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinRedmond View Post
    It wouldn't put me off trying Sweet Tooth, but no more super heroes by Lemire.
    I recommend starting with Essex County then Underwater Welder and then Sweet Tooth.
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    Question for you guys since you are fans of Milligan, what's your thoughts on Greek Street? I've been trying to read different Vertigo titles and this one came on the radar. There's not much talk about it from places I've been to so I'm not sure what to make of it. What you guys think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by InformationGeek View Post
    Question for you guys since you are fans of Milligan, what's your thoughts on Greek Street? I've been trying to read different Vertigo titles and this one came on the radar. There's not much talk about it from places I've been to so I'm not sure what to make of it. What you guys think?
    Hi, I have read Greek Street years ago, when it came out, I have the complete series in TPB localized for the italian market, so it is translated (this could be important, because sometime translators do a terrible job, indeed right now I only read original material).

    Unfortunately my judgment on Greek Street is not positive, but mind you it is only my opinion.
    Also I have the feeling that during the end it becomes a mess, probably because they forced Milligan to interrupt the series so he has to close the story in 1-2 issues, but I have not evidence to confirm this.

    The art is good but not as good as I espected: the majority of the series is drawn by an italian artist Davide Gianfelice, usually his strandars are higher.

    So I would not recommend you Greek Street, but this is only my opinion, wait somebody else vision here on this forum.

    Of course if you find it for a cheap price in TPB, maybe pre-owned, you may take it and build your own ideas about this comic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InformationGeek View Post
    Question for you guys since you are fans of Milligan, what's your thoughts on Greek Street? I've been trying to read different Vertigo titles and this one came on the radar. There's not much talk about it from places I've been to so I'm not sure what to make of it. What you guys think?
    Thought it was great :p
    If you like you bizarre things, it's worth checking out. It got cancelled so Milligan went with a lazy ending though.
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