OTMT8: The "Ocho" - If It's Almost a Topic, We've Got It Here!

[ShaggyB]

Pure crap? That's certainly a different take on the Raimi films!

Personally, I think he did a great job of capturing Peter Parker's world in the first two films.

id give him pure crap on spider-man 3.... but 2 was great.

[oldschool]

id give him pure crap on spider-man 3.... but 2 was great.

Most would. I have never before heard someone dis Spidey 2; first time for everything, I suppose.

[Scott Taylor]

The Raimi films were like a breath of fresh air for a Spidey fan. With few exceptions, Raimi had a great sense of how to capture iconic Spider-Man imagery.

[oldschool]

The Raimi films were like a breath of fresh air for a Spidey fan. With few exceptions, Raimi had a great sense of how to capture iconic Spider-Man imagery.

Yep. And even though I thought the series faltered badly with 3, I still think he should have made a 4th film, especially when it seemed like John Malkovich was locked in to play the Vulture. That casting for the villain, combined with the advances in CGI for the flying scenes, seems like a home run compared to Rhys as Lizard crawling around the sewers.

Again, I am praying that I am proven wrong and that this new film will blow me away. But I don't think it will.

[Scott Taylor]

Again, I am praying that I am proven wrong and that this new film will blow me away. But I don't think it will.

I was excited about it until seeing the latest trailer before Avengers. Just got a bad vibe from it, hope I'm wrong.

[David Walton]

I was excited about it until seeing the latest trailer before Avengers. Just got a bad vibe from it, hope I'm wrong.

Scott's movie sense is tingling!

[Scott Taylor]

Subtle difference between that and spider-sense! If a bad guy showed up, and it wasn't just the movie, my plan was to hand him a hostess fruit pie.

[coconutphone]

Pure crap? That's certainly a different take on the Raimi films!

Personally, I think he did a great job of capturing Peter Parker's world in the first two films.

OMG they were so laughably bad. Just excrutiating to watch. I went in so excited to see the 1st one. Everyone I knew was talking them excetp 2 of my friends. They hated it. But they wern't comic book fans or fans of that kind of movie so I just put that aside. Then I saw it and was mortified at the painful dialogue, the TERRIBLE acting from almost everyone and the overall super corny tone. I burst out laughing when Uncle Ben died (my friend whispering "I'd say Uncle Ben was cooked" didn't help. We laughed for a good 10 minutes). 2 kept it up with a frustrating train climax (how did that kid catch his mask?! Why is he OK with all these people seeing him without it?) and continued bad acting and dialogue and characterization. Was Peter even funny once? Why was MJ nothing like MJ from the books? Aside from laughably bad acting? The there was 3.

Dance Sequence.

'Nuff said!

[coconutphone]

Now now don't insult the Raimi films...Their where my childhood. Still though I bet your really looking forward to a good spider-man film for once I suppose?

Very much. This one looks like it's in great hands all around.

[matthewaos]

I'm on the side that did not dislike the 2 movies. Though I did not love them. I remember that it was great that finally such a super hero movie about my favorite hero was a reality. X-Men was a hit and everyone was waiting for Spider-Man. However there were some things that bothered me, but excitment did not let me say them. The second time I watched the movie though, about a year or so after, I think that all the bad things came back to haunt me, and this time they brought help. I did not liked Maguire from the begining. He is one of the reasons I do not love the movies, and as the sequels progress he looks even more annoying. Plus (although not a plus at all), as much as I loved Batman begins, I hated Spider-Man's first half. The third time I watched the movie it was with my ex, who had not seen it. I was only looking when the whole origin part was gone. Batman Begins on the other hand, I loved the first half more than the second. Burton's Batman films also are great on starting with the fact that Batman exists for a while.

Spider-Man 2 was way better. Still Maguire was there but the cast was once again great (I think that everyone else from the cast of those two movies is great, maybe not Ben and May, though they were not horrible). The train scene was wierd though, and I will tell you a secret. I hate it when the so called "Parker luck" is showing in such obvious ways, in such overeacting subjects. The guy can't have a break, we get it, stop making him look like a protagonist from a stupid comedy sitcom.

I will not comment on 3.

Those two were good movies. Not exceptional, nor bad but good, and enjoyable the first time. Still they are good, comic book movies, wheras Dark Knight or V were good movies. However I dislike Cristian Bale as Batman (not Bruce Wayne), even though I think he is a good actor.

[Aziz Abbasi]

id give him pure crap on spider-man 3.... but 2 was great.

The real weakness of 3 is the dance (minor stuff, greatly exaggerated hate tbh, but I find that funny), and then some inconsistency in continuity. The pacing, villains chosen, how they were written was much better than SM2

Most would. I have never before heard someone dis Spidey 2; first time for everything, I suppose.

Schmitty's evil twin expressed his hate for these movies many time in the past few years, and tbh, SM2 is the weakest of the lot, I enjoy all three, but it's the weakest, and has the biggest amount of mistakes, and MJ is such a piss $#%^ slut in that film, and I like her in SM1 & SM3, she's her best in SM3.

OMG they were so laughably bad. Just excrutiating to watch. I went in so excited to see the 1st one. Everyone I knew was talking them excetp 2 of my friends. They hated it. But they wern't comic book fans or fans of that kind of movie so I just put that aside. Then I saw it and was mortified at the painful dialogue, the TERRIBLE acting from almost everyone and the overall super corny tone. I burst out laughing when Uncle Ben died (my friend whispering "I'd say Uncle Ben was cooked" didn't help. We laughed for a good 10 minutes). 2 kept it up with a frustrating train climax (how did that kid catch his mask?! Why is he OK with all these people seeing him without it?) and continued bad acting and dialogue and characterization. Was Peter even funny once? Why was MJ nothing like MJ from the books? Aside from laughably bad acting? The there was 3.

Dance Sequence.

'Nuff said!

I agree that the movies are weak, but they're not as terrible as you find them, and I'll mark out "laughably bad" part and say that's it, they're laughable, they are unintentionally too funny
Acting is not what I dislike, don't see the hate for it

[Aziz Abbasi]

I love this image
From Spawn #10

[matthewaos]

The real weakness of 3 is the dance (minor stuff, greatly exaggerated hate tbh, but I find that funny), and then some inconsistency in continuity. The pacing, villains chosen, how they were written was much better than SM2

Schmitty's evil twin expressed his hate for these movies many time in the past few years, and tbh, SM2 is the weakest of the lot, I enjoy all three, but it's the weakest, and has the biggest amount of mistakes, and MJ is such a piss $#%^ slut in that film, and I like her in SM1 & SM3, she's her best in SM3.

I agree that the movies are weak, but they're not as terrible as you find them, and I'll mark out "laughably bad" part and say that's it, they're laughable, they are unintentionally too funny
Acting is not what I dislike, don't see the hate for it

???
In SM3 someone forgot to write script for MJ, so she screams every other minute! Also the actors playing Venom and Sandman are uninteresting. Plus because - god forbit - they could not show Spider-Man being violent, so they had him act like a jerk.

Personaly I believe that 2 is the best and 3 crap. How couls you think that it is the weakest?

[David Walton]

SM2 is unquestionably the best. It's firing on all cylinders, because not only do you have a really cool sympathetic villain in Doc Ock, but you've got Pete wrestling with whether he wants to be Spider-Man, and Harry rocketing toward a tragic confrontation with his best friend. The only way this movie suffers is through the lens of the third film, which didn't fulfill the promise of the second.

[Aziz Abbasi]

???
In SM3 someone forgot to write script for MJ, so she screams every other minute! Also the actors playing Venom and Sandman are uninteresting.

What you said gives me this ??? emotion. MJ talks in SM3, she tries to patch things between Peter & Harry, and talks to him in his apartment and has a talk to him as a friend after Stacey talks about the true murderer, she doesn't scream out of the final fight scene in SM3, she screams more in SM1. As for SM2, almost all she does is bitch and moan
Sandman is interesting, he has layers
Venom was never interesting, I liked how they made him a jerk here, good reason for anger, and then Spidey does the most responsible thing ever, he kills the f***ing symbiote, and Eddie takes a dive with it cause he's a moron, Eddie was never anything less than a moron in comics

Plus because - god forbit - they could not show Spider-Man being violent, so they had him act like a jerk.

He wasn't violent in the cartoons, why should he be violent here?

Personaly I believe that 2 is the best and 3 crap. How couls you think that it is the weakest?

I said the biggest fail of SM3 problems, so yeah, it's superior to SM2, and I love all three movies

SM2:

• Has a campy villain for live actions, he's kinda campy on paper but executed much much better than the movie, cool in cartoons, but still kinda campy, too campy in the movie. A guy with his only power having tentacles attached to his back should NEVER be able to lift as much weight as he did, and should faint after one attack from Spidey, but he received in total 11 punches and two kicks to the face since the clock tower fight until he drowns
• Mary Jane is such a useless b****, she gets too pissy at Peter for not being in her play once and acts like a s*** towards him "Oh, I don't know you, you said you'd come to my play once, but you didn't, it's torture, you effing jerk". What kind of a personality is that? She's way too fragile, and the worst drama queen until Pepper comes in IM2 when it comes to comic book movies. He goes to her play once, she's friendly until Peter invites her to dinner, then she's all pissy again, and he invited her to a cheese burger in the firwst movie knowing she was dating Harry, she declined with a reasonable excuse and a friendly smile, what's her excuse for being batty here? He didn't even flirt her
• Lots and lots and LOTS of inconsistencies everywhere, too many of them
• The burning building scene is ridiculous, it was fine until a fire man explained to me what happens to people in burning buildings. Please don't give me about Spider-Guy and his powers, make certain stuff believable movie makers, I mean f***